Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me some
advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am currently working
on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu light as they should indicating it thinks its playing the right sound(s).
Paul
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me some
advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am currently working
on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu light as they should
indicating it thinks its playing the right sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check for
12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many suggestions
on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified speakers with reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before shipping
to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the Lamp/Sol/Audio board,
you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
On 9/2/2020 3:55 PM, John Robertson wrote:Hi Paul,
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me some
advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am currently working
on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu light as they should >>> indicating it thinks its playing the right sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check for
12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many suggestions
on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified speakers with
reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before
shipping to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the
Lamp/Sol/Audio board, you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
Have 12v (well, 10.9vdc) at the lamp/solenoid/audio board.
I'm figuring something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVZWRinypU
Since the sound consists of the noise generator and waveform generator > (The Atari sound setup on the mpu), I would test after these are
combined to see if I hear proper sounds before going to the driver/audio board?
Paul
On 2020/09/04 8:01 p.m., Paul wrote:
On 9/2/2020 3:55 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me some
advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am currently
working on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu light as
they should indicating it thinks its playing the right sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check for
12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many
suggestions on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified
speakers with reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before
shipping to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the
Lamp/Sol/Audio board, you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
Have 12v (well, 10.9vdc) at the lamp/solenoid/audio board.
I'm figuring something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVZWRinypU
Since the sound consists of the noise generator and waveform generator
(The Atari sound setup on the mpu), I would test after these are
combined to see if I hear proper sounds before going to the
driver/audio board?
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry, I'm not going to dig through a 14 minute video to try and figure
out what you want me to see. Tell me the minute:second reference please!
If the video talks about an audio sound tracer, then yes, that is what I suggest for following the audio...
John :-#)#
On 9/5/2020 12:51 PM, John Robertson wrote:Hi Paul,
On 2020/09/04 8:01 p.m., Paul wrote:9:28 shows this guy making one out of a pc speaker
On 9/2/2020 3:55 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me some >>>>> advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am currently
working on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu light as
they should indicating it thinks its playing the right sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check for >>>> 12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many
suggestions on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified
speakers with reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before
shipping to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the
Lamp/Sol/Audio board, you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
Have 12v (well, 10.9vdc) at the lamp/solenoid/audio board.
I'm figuring something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVZWRinypU
Since the sound consists of the noise generator and waveform
generator (The Atari sound setup on the mpu), I would test after
these are combined to see if I hear proper sounds before going to the
driver/audio board?
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry, I'm not going to dig through a 14 minute video to try and
figure out what you want me to see. Tell me the minute:second
reference please!
If the video talks about an audio sound tracer, then yes, that is what
I suggest for following the audio...
John :-#)#
12:37 shows him probing around on a video game board
After watching where he probed around, made me think of where to go
about on this Atari board, which is why I asked your opinion on where I should probe around. Thank you for any input.
Paul
On 2020/09/05 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:
On 9/5/2020 12:51 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/04 8:01 p.m., Paul wrote:9:28 shows this guy making one out of a pc speaker
On 9/2/2020 3:55 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me some >>>>>> advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am currently
working on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu light as
they should indicating it thinks its playing the right sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check for >>>>> 12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many
suggestions on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified
speakers with reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before
shipping to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the
Lamp/Sol/Audio board, you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
Have 12v (well, 10.9vdc) at the lamp/solenoid/audio board.
I'm figuring something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVZWRinypU
Since the sound consists of the noise generator and waveform
generator (The Atari sound setup on the mpu), I would test after
these are combined to see if I hear proper sounds before going to
the driver/audio board?
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry, I'm not going to dig through a 14 minute video to try and
figure out what you want me to see. Tell me the minute:second
reference please!
If the video talks about an audio sound tracer, then yes, that is
what I suggest for following the audio...
John :-#)#
12:37 shows him probing around on a video game board
After watching where he probed around, made me think of where to go
about on this Atari board, which is why I asked your opinion on where
I should probe around. Thank you for any input.
Paul
Hi Paul,
Yes, that can work - using a PC speaker - but they aren't terribly
sensitive to low volume sounds.
As for where to probe, you need to use the schematic and then use that
to help identify the audio sections and ICs and use the probe while attempting to make sounds.
John :-#)#
On 9/6/2020 1:28 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/05 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
On 9/5/2020 12:51 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/04 8:01 p.m., Paul wrote:9:28 shows this guy making one out of a pc speaker
On 9/2/2020 3:55 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me
some advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am
currently working on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the cpu >>>>>>> light as they should indicating it thinks its playing the right >>>>>>> sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check
for 12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many
suggestions on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified >>>>>> speakers with reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before
shipping to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the
Lamp/Sol/Audio board, you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
Have 12v (well, 10.9vdc) at the lamp/solenoid/audio board.
I'm figuring something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVZWRinypU
Since the sound consists of the noise generator and waveform
generator (The Atari sound setup on the mpu), I would test after
these are combined to see if I hear proper sounds before going to
the driver/audio board?
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry, I'm not going to dig through a 14 minute video to try and
figure out what you want me to see. Tell me the minute:second
reference please!
If the video talks about an audio sound tracer, then yes, that is
what I suggest for following the audio...
John :-#)#
12:37 shows him probing around on a video game board
After watching where he probed around, made me think of where to go
about on this Atari board, which is why I asked your opinion on where
I should probe around. Thank you for any input.
Paul
Hi Paul,
Yes, that can work - using a PC speaker - but they aren't terribly
sensitive to low volume sounds.
As for where to probe, you need to use the schematic and then use that
to help identify the audio sections and ICs and use the probe while
attempting to make sounds.
John :-#)#
I made my probe and started poking around after looking over the schematics and reading the manual.
So Atari did not screen the boards with what component is what. (kinda like Williams did back in the system 3-7 era, but Williams at least
provided board layout and labeled every component in the schematics).
I looked around and can find nothing like this for the Atari boards.
Makes it hard when you read the schematic and manual and go to test Q2 > and have kind of zero idea where it is.
So, by chance do you have such a layout of these boards?
Paul
On 2020/09/10 7:09 p.m., Paul wrote:
On 9/6/2020 1:28 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/05 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
On 9/5/2020 12:51 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/04 8:01 p.m., Paul wrote:9:28 shows this guy making one out of a pc speaker
On 9/2/2020 3:55 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/09/01 8:04 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
Does anyone work on Atari (Gen 2) boards? Or at least give me >>>>>>>> some advice on what may be wrong with this Superman I am
currently working on. Plays good, sounds are off. LEDs on the >>>>>>>> cpu light as they should indicating it thinks its playing the >>>>>>>> right sound(s).
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sounds are amplified by the Lamp/Sol/Audio board, did you check >>>>>>> for 12VDC at that test point?
A simple audio tracer will help a lot here. There are many
suggestions on youtube. I've played with using PC style amplified >>>>>>> speakers with reasonable success.
I also service Atari board, but try my suggestions first before >>>>>>> shipping to Canada. Also check the speaker wiring from the
Lamp/Sol/Audio board, you may have a simple connection problem!
John :-#)#
Have 12v (well, 10.9vdc) at the lamp/solenoid/audio board.
I'm figuring something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVZWRinypU
Since the sound consists of the noise generator and waveform
generator (The Atari sound setup on the mpu), I would test after
these are combined to see if I hear proper sounds before going to >>>>>> the driver/audio board?
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry, I'm not going to dig through a 14 minute video to try and
figure out what you want me to see. Tell me the minute:second
reference please!
If the video talks about an audio sound tracer, then yes, that is
what I suggest for following the audio...
John :-#)#
12:37 shows him probing around on a video game board
After watching where he probed around, made me think of where to go
about on this Atari board, which is why I asked your opinion on
where I should probe around. Thank you for any input.
Paul
Hi Paul,
Yes, that can work - using a PC speaker - but they aren't terribly
sensitive to low volume sounds.
As for where to probe, you need to use the schematic and then use
that to help identify the audio sections and ICs and use the probe
while attempting to make sounds.
John :-#)#
I made my probe and started poking around after looking over the
schematics and reading the manual.
So Atari did not screen the boards with what component is what.
(kinda like Williams did back in the system 3-7 era, but Williams at
least provided board layout and labeled every component in the
schematics).
I looked around and can find nothing like this for the Atari boards.
Makes it hard when you read the schematic and manual and go to test Q2
and have kind of zero idea where it is.
So, by chance do you have such a layout of these boards?
Paul
Hi Paul,
The parts manual for the game shows the locations of the components.
You could try the audio tracer on the audio ICs first, to hear what sort
of sounds you are getting there.
John :-#)#
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