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    From Dan Beck@djbgasman@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Friday, May 22, 2020 19:21:34
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    Playing a friend’s Sega Batman Forever today. Had not been played in years. The game would load 2 balls into the runway to play. Knowing nothing about this game’s rules I would presume that is a fault. If so, am I looking at a trough opto problem, a switch matrix problem, or some strange software problem?
    Thank you in advance for any and all information you can give me.
    Regards.
    Dan
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  • From Todd Mcdermott@tmcderm653@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Saturday, May 23, 2020 06:44:35
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    1st make sure the right number of balls are installed in the game, should be listed in manual or under the lockdown bar. Use the game switch test to see that all ball trough switches work if not trouble shoot from that info. Good luck.

    Todd
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  • From Gott Lieb?@rgp@papinball.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, May 24, 2020 05:51:25
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    On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 10:21:40 PM UTC-4, Dan Beck wrote:
    Playing a friend’s Sega Batman Forever today. Had not been played in years. The game would load 2 balls into the runway to play. Knowing nothing about this game’s rules I would presume that is a fault. If so, am I looking at a trough opto problem, a switch matrix problem, or some strange software problem?

    Thank you in advance for any and all information you can give me.

    Regards.
    Dan
    I think BMF uses a single trough opto. If so, they get tired, and no longer register correctly. You can get the boards from most vendors, or just buy the optos from Ed @ GPE. They are ultra brite red opto LEDs, not infared.
    Jim
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  • From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, May 24, 2020 15:40:06
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    On 5/24/20 8:51 AM, Gott Lieb? wrote:
    On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 10:21:40 PM UTC-4, Dan Beck wrote:
    Playing a friend’s Sega Batman Forever today. Had not been played in years. The game would load 2 balls into the runway to play. Knowing nothing about this game’s rules I would presume that is a fault. If so, am I looking at a trough opto problem, a switch matrix problem, or some strange software problem?

    Thank you in advance for any and all information you can give me.

    Regards.
    Dan

    I think BMF uses a single trough opto. If so, they get tired, and no longer register correctly. You can get the boards from most vendors, or just buy the optos from Ed @ GPE. They are ultra brite red opto LEDs, not infared..

    Jim


    https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sega/Stern_White_Star_Repair#Two_Balls_Served.2C_Continuous_Balls_Served_to_the_Shooter_Lane.2C_or_the_Trough_VUK_Fires_Repeatedly

    You are right, Jim. There are four physical switches and then one opto
    who's purpose, is to detect a ball jam in the VUK area, maybe? Not sure
    that is right, but it is a four ball game with four physical switches.
    Later on, Sega / Stern used two optos in the VUK area, one to detect the
    ball and one to detect a jam.

    If these are the same optos that were used in Maverick, they were not
    very good / strong even when new. Subbing a new transmitter and
    receiver from GPE might improve reliability especially now that they are
    20 years old.

    Unfortunately, GPE has been out of these MV8114 LEDs for quite some
    time. Ed got a few in and they sold out before I could get any.
    Digi-key has them in stock.

    https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/everlight-electronics-co-ltd/MV8114/1080-1135-ND/2675626

    Larry

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