• F4 Fuse Blowing on System 11B Cyclone

    From Adam Hocherman@adam.hocherman@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Thursday, March 30, 2023 18:14:42
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    I blew Fuse F4 on the Aux board which controls the slingshot, boomerang and skill shot solenoids. While hard to get a solid read, all solenoids seem to test fine with the DMM. I noticed that the left slingshot solenoid had been installed incorrectly and there was clear evidence of a short against the mount (black singeing). I happily rebuilt the whole thing but F4 still blows instantly. So now I could use some advice - am I looking at a board-level component replacement now or is there something under the playfield I am missing?
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  • From coolbet@coolbet3@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, April 09, 2023 17:15:06
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    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 6:14:46 PM UTC-7, Adam Hocherman wrote:
    I blew Fuse F4 on the Aux board which controls the slingshot, boomerang and skill shot solenoids. While hard to get a solid read, all solenoids seem to test fine with the DMM. I noticed that the left slingshot solenoid had been installed incorrectly and there was clear evidence of a short against the mount (black singeing). I happily rebuilt the whole thing but F4 still blows instantly. So now I could use some advice - am I looking at a board-level component replacement now or is there something under the playfield I am missing?
    Hard to say, could be anything, but it's a short somewhere. One thing that could help is purchasing some pushbutton mini circuit breakers like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Circuit-Breaker-Briidea-Voltage-Protection/dp/B09KTDDVDM/ref=sr_1_10?crid=QF0F2SC79Z0J&keywords=pushbutton+mini+circuit+breakers&qid=1681085541&sprefix=pushbutton+mini+circuit+breakers%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-10
    I made a few of these up with various ampereages. This way you're not constantly blowing fuses while you look for the problem.
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  • From Adam Hocherman@adam.hocherman@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, April 09, 2023 19:05:39
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    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:15:10 PM UTC-4, coolbet wrote:
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 6:14:46 PM UTC-7, Adam Hocherman wrote:
    I blew Fuse F4 on the Aux board which controls the slingshot, boomerang and skill shot solenoids. While hard to get a solid read, all solenoids seem to test fine with the DMM. I noticed that the left slingshot solenoid had been installed incorrectly and there was clear evidence of a short against the mount (black singeing). I happily rebuilt the whole thing but F4 still blows instantly. So now I could use some advice - am I looking at a board-level component replacement now or is there something under the playfield I am missing?
    Hard to say, could be anything, but it's a short somewhere. One thing that could help is purchasing some pushbutton mini circuit breakers like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Circuit-Breaker-Briidea-Voltage-Protection/dp/B09KTDDVDM/ref=sr_1_10?crid=QF0F2SC79Z0J&keywords=pushbutton+mini+circuit+breakers&qid=1681085541&sprefix=pushbutton+mini+circuit+breakers%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-10
    I made a few of these up with various ampereages. This way you're not constantly blowing fuses while you look for the problem.
    Cool, what a great idea - I didn't know such a thing existed. Thanks for the tip!
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  • From John Robertson@jrr@flippers.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, April 09, 2023 23:36:13
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    On 2023/03/30 6:14 p.m., Adam Hocherman wrote:
    I blew Fuse F4 on the Aux board which controls the slingshot, boomerang and skill shot solenoids. While hard to get a solid read, all solenoids seem to test fine with the DMM. I noticed that the left slingshot solenoid had been installed incorrectly and there was clear evidence of a short against the mount (black singeing). I happily rebuilt the whole thing but F4 still blows instantly. So now I could use some advice - am I looking at a board-level component replacement now or is there something under the playfield I am missing?

    Does the fuse blow as soon as you power up the game?

    If yes, then you have a problem - most likely at least one solenoid
    driver transistor is shorted.

    If you have an ohmmeter, check the resistance to cabinet ground for the various coils. If several show low resistance to ground, then find the
    one with the lowest value - that is probably the shorted coil (or the
    coil diode is shorted) and needs attention. Unsolder one lug of the coil
    and then check the other coils that showed low resistance to ground. If
    they now show high or infinite resistance to ground the coil AND the
    driver transistor are shorted and need attention.

    A better way to check for shorts is to use a 24 to 28 volt light bulb
    across the fuse holder (for 24VDC coils). If a coil is shorted then the
    bulb will be bright. If no short the light will be out.

    John :-#)#
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