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The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

Thanks
Chas
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On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:

The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

Thanks
Chas

Hi Chas,

Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static
voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much resistance and thus the action is weak.

Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

John :-#)#

PS, the manual is on ipdb.org
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From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:00:22 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:

On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:

The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

Thanks
Chas

Hi Chas,

Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much resistance and thus the action is weak.

Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

John :-#)#

PS, the manual is on ipdb.org
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John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

thanks for the info.. Guess it's time to reflow the solder joints
Chas
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On 2023/03/22 5:45 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:00:22 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:

On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:

The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

Thanks
Chas

Hi Chas,

Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown
conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static
voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much
resistance and thus the action is weak.

Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

John :-#)#

PS, the manual is on ipdb.org

thanks for the info.. Guess it's time to reflow the solder joints

Chas

I don't think reflowing the solder connections on these pins will help
much if at all, I am talking about the wiper pins in the sockets...those
I am suspicious of!

John :-#)#
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(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 11:20:37 AM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:

On 2023/03/22 5:45 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:00:22 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:

On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:

The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc >>>
Thanks
Chas

Hi Chas,

Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown >> conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static
voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much >> resistance and thus the action is weak.

Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

John :-#)#

PS, the manual is on ipdb.org

thanks for the info.. Guess it's time to reflow the solder joints

Chas

I don't think reflowing the solder connections on these pins will help
much if at all, I am talking about the wiper pins in the sockets...those
I am suspicious of!

John :-#)#
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John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

gotcha. thanks
chas
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