Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
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Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test. John :-#)#
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Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test. >> John :-#)#
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade styule switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would
during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
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Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would
during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp.
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out >>>> which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch >>>> Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective >>>> switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would
during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
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Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp.
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out >>>>>> which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch >>>>>> Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective >>>>>> switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>>>>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of >>>> the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can >>>> cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would
during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp. >> Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and >> the wire ramp?
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make >>>> sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of >>>> the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can >>>> cause weird issues.
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out >>>>>> which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch >>>>>> Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective >>>>>> switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>>>>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
John :-#)#
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would
during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch >>>> Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and
check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
John :-#)#
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Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.
On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp. >> Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make >>>> sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch >>>> Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
John :-#)#
--https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
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Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp. >>>> Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and >>>> the wire ramp?
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make >>>>>> sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of >>>>>> the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can >>>>>> cause weird issues.
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out >>>>>>>> which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch >>>>>>>> Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective >>>>>>>> switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>>>>>>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
John :-#)#
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch >>>>>> Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
John :-#)#
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 20:26:47 UTC+2 Evil777 ha scritto:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.
On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp. >>>>> Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and >>>>> the wire ramp?
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make >>>>>>> sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of >>>>>>> the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can >>>>>>> cause weird issues.
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out >>>>>>>>> which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch >>>>>>>>> Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective >>>>>>>>> switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what >>>>>>>>>>> happens...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
John :-#)#
John :-#)#
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>>>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch >>>>>>> Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
On 2022/06/03 11:36 a.m., Evil777 wrote:I John it seems that the problem is not the "A1" switch but an integrated component, could you tell me on which board the A1 switch is connected?
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 20:26:47 UTC+2 Evil777 ha scritto:Then concentrate on #41. Check the wiring, does the switch register if
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.
On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and >>> check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp.
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>>>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch >>>>>>> Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
you move the wire and try manually moving the gate and see if the switch responds then.
Do all other switches work properly in Switch Test?
John :-#)#
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Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 23:39:46 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/06/03 11:36 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 20:26:47 UTC+2 Evil777 ha scritto: >>>> Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Then concentrate on #41. Check the wiring, does the switch register if
In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and >>>>> check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp. >>>>>>> Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make >>>>>>>>> sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>>>>>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch >>>>>>>>> Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
you move the wire and try manually moving the gate and see if the switch
responds then.
Do all other switches work properly in Switch Test?
John :-#)#
I John it seems that the problem is not the "A1" switch but an integrated component, could you tell me on which board the A1 switch is connected?
On 2022/08/25 4:27 a.m., Evil777 wrote:i'm so sorry, i hope you get negative, i have the manual online: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u5ROWlTO6zq-i1toZwOx6cf5yxb-LT49/view
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 23:39:46 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/06/03 11:36 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 20:26:47 UTC+2 Evil777 ha scritto: >>>> Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Then concentrate on #41. Check the wiring, does the switch register if
In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and >>>>> check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp.
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>>>>>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
you move the wire and try manually moving the gate and see if the switch >> responds then.
Do all other switches work properly in Switch Test?
John :-#)#
I John it seems that the problem is not the "A1" switch but an integrated component, could you tell me on which board the A1 switch is connected?Sorry, stuck home with Covid, no manual handy. Will try to get an answer next week for you when I am better. Not feeling bad, just testing
positive still.
John :-#(#
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Il giorno giovedì 1 settembre 2022 alle 04:08:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/08/25 4:27 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 23:39:46 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Sorry, stuck home with Covid, no manual handy. Will try to get an answer
On 2022/06/03 11:36 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 20:26:47 UTC+2 Evil777 ha scritto: >>>>>> Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Then concentrate on #41. Check the wiring, does the switch register if >>>> you move the wire and try manually moving the gate and see if the switch >>>> responds then.
In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and >>>>>>> check all switches related to the gate. And others around it.
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp.
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would >>>>>>>>>>> during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
Do all other switches work properly in Switch Test?
John :-#)#
I John it seems that the problem is not the "A1" switch but an integrated component, could you tell me on which board the A1 switch is connected?
next week for you when I am better. Not feeling bad, just testing
positive still.
John :-#(#
i'm so sorry, i hope you get negative, i have the manual online: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u5ROWlTO6zq-i1toZwOx6cf5yxb-LT49/view
On 2022/09/01 2:12 a.m., Evil777 wrote:Ok i have delete my post with link.
Il giorno giovedì 1 settembre 2022 alle 04:08:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:
On 2022/08/25 4:27 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 23:39:46 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Sorry, stuck home with Covid, no manual handy. Will try to get an answer >> next week for you when I am better. Not feeling bad, just testing
On 2022/06/03 11:36 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 20:26:47 UTC+2 Evil777 ha scritto:Then concentrate on #41. Check the wiring, does the switch register if >>>> you move the wire and try manually moving the gate and see if the switch
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 19:43:06 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:In switch test switch 41 "Ball Gate Sensor" is inoperative.
On 2022/06/03 9:01 a.m., Evil777 wrote:https://photos.app.goo.gl/XeggDpXM8BnEREcr8
Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 02:06:10 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:All I can suggest at this point is to use the game's Switch Tests and
On 2022/06/02 11:02 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 1 giugno 2022 alle 01:11:42 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:The second photo seems to show a Molex plug wedged under the wire ramp.
On 2022/05/31 9:22 a.m., Evil777 wrote:when the ball touches the sensor of the Skill Shoot or the blade that defect happens, under the top I took a look but there don't seem to be any cables out of place, where could I check?
Il giorno martedì 31 maggio 2022 alle 16:47:59 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:Is this a blade style switch or a microswitch? If a blade style. make
On 2022/05/30 1:50 p.m., Evil777 wrote:the strange thing is that the defect occurs only when the ball touches the switches that should activate the coil of the left ball gate, normally the defect does not manifest itself, for example it does it as in the video when the ball goes into the sensor of the Skill shoot, i have check all switch and all ok.
Il giorno lunedì 30 maggio 2022 alle 01:40:05 UTC+2 John Robertson ha scritto:If the gate works in self test then it is OK. You have to figure out
On 2022/05/29 1:50 a.m., Evil777 wrote:In self test work fine, in game not.
Hi, i have a Stargate and the lower left ball gate does not work, I checked the switches, fuse and the coils and they are all ok, I hope someone can help me.Put the game into self test and run the Ball Gate Test and see what
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEkadKPBvgS5BVkG7
happens...
John :-#)#
which switches activate it (or release it) and check those in Switch
Test. It pretty much has to be a badly adjusted, noisy, or defective
switch as the computer can control the gate as you proved in the gate test.
John :-#)#
sure there is an insulator between the actuator wire and the blades of
the switch - stray grounding through the ball to other metal items can
cause weird issues.
Test the Switches using the pinball and move it exacly as it would
during game play. Not fast, but the path the ball would take. Switch
Test may show something then...
John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z6jmKnoFHUJf9UUL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1ZRmX4rzWN32arGaA
Any chance there is an electrical connection between the plug wiring and
the wire ramp?
John :-#)#
yes there is a molex plug underneath but I checked and everything is ok, I also tried to disconnect it and the problem remains.
check all switches related to the gate. And others around it. >>>>>>> John :-#)#
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u7WhGg6uC3P2u7rP6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8QZPYCWZ3qnonaak8
responds then.
Do all other switches work properly in Switch Test?
John :-#)#
I John it seems that the problem is not the "A1" switch but an integrated component, could you tell me on which board the A1 switch is connected?
positive still.
John :-#(#
i'm so sorry, i hope you get negative, i have the manual online: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u5ROWlTO6zq-i1toZwOx6cf5yxb-LT49/view
Please take the manual down as it violates international copyright law
to have it posted. Don't want you getting in trouble!
John :-#)#
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I John Robertson, do you know the ic (integrated circuit) that manages to raise the pyramid?
Thanks
On 2023/01/04 4:28 a.m., Evil777 wrote:
I John Robertson, do you know the ic (integrated circuit) that manages to raise the pyramid?Hi!
Thanks
I don't have a Stargate in the shop so I can't trace the wiring. Looking
at my manual I can't find where the Motor Interface Board (A28 - see
page 56) is connected to anything in the cabinet! I assume this is for
the motor for the Pyramid...
At this point I would ask you to trace the control lines from A28-P1
back to the control boards to figure out what the control logic is. If
you can find the wire colours and where they go that will help!
Looks like Gottlieb simply forgot to document that in the Instruction Manual...and rummaging through my 1995 Service Bulletins doesn't give
any help other than the following 2 notes for Stargate: ---------------------------
Changed page 25 and 56
"F26" should be 2-1/2 Amp Slo-Blo Fuse, EL-21
Changed Page 76
Spaceship and Bracket Assembly 31308 (Corrected Part Number) ---------------------------
John :-#(#Thanks i try it
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