• Winston Salem Auction Results 2021-10-23

    From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, October 24, 2021 15:49:38
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Pin Del@delmail333@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 21:44:45
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Friday, October 29, 2021 09:44:30
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200 BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800 BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800 BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700 BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000 BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800 BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900 BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500 BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed. Items for auction and people. First one since Covid.

    I do have some updates. I didn't indicate which are buy backs (BB) so I edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could not be easily inspected. $250.
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Kerry Imming@kcimming@pobox.com to rec.games.pinball on Friday, October 29, 2021 09:46:22
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since Covid.

    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs (BB) so I edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could not be easily inspected.  $250.


    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Pin Del@delmail333@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Friday, October 29, 2021 09:35:34
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin wrote: >>> ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200 BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800 BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800 BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700 BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000 BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800 BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900 BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500 BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed. Items for auction and people. First one since Covid.

    I do have some updates. I didn't indicate which are buy backs (BB) so I edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could not be easily inspected. $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you the "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Kerry Imming@kcimming@pobox.com to rec.games.pinball on Monday, November 01, 2021 09:31:44
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin wrote: >>>>> ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200 BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800 BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800 BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700 BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000 BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800 BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900 BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500 BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed. Items for auction and people. First one since Covid.

    I do have some updates. I didn't indicate which are buy backs (BB) so I >>> edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could not be >>> easily inspected. $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you the "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction. I was trying to calculate what
    sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to pay
    10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Monday, November 01, 2021 16:01:37
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin wrote: >>>>>> ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since Covid. >>>>
    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs (BB)
    so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could
    not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you the
    "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners of
    the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have dumped
    them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate what sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to pay
    10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa

    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at the Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor, Pennsylvania.

    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back for a
    $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and $25
    for the buy back.
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Monday, November 01, 2021 17:36:57
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 11/1/21 4:01 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin
    wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since Covid. >>>>>
    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs (BB) >>>>> so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could
    not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you the
    "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners of
    the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have
    dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate what
    sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to pay
    10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa


    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at the Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor, Pennsylvania.

    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back for a
    $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and $25
    for the buy back.

    And from another source....

    "It is $15 per item to register. Buy backs are $10 per item so it costs
    $25 to run it through."

    I suspect this one is accurate. The $25 comment on the previous one
    must include the registration fee.
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Kerry Imming@kcimming@pobox.com to rec.games.pinball on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 08:33:33
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 11/1/2021 4:36 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 4:01 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote: >>>>> On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin >>>>>>> wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since Covid. >>>>>>
    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs
    (BB) so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could >>>>>> not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you the
    "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners
    of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have
    dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate what
    sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to pay
    10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa


    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at the
    Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor, Pennsylvania.

    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back for
    a $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and
    $25 for the buy back.

    And from another source....

    "It is $15 per item to register. Buy backs are $10 per item so it costs
    $25 to run it through."

    I suspect this one is accurate.  The $25 comment on the previous one
    must include the registration fee.


    WOW! Thanks for that information. I understand now why there are so
    many "BuyBacks" (just a generous term for a reserve price).

    I hope that information is made clear to all the bidders.

    - Kerry
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From John Robertson@spam@flippers.com to rec.games.pinball on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 09:11:38
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 2021/11/02 6:33 a.m., Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 11/1/2021 4:36 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 4:01 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote: >>>>>> On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin >>>>>>>> wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $
    ...
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since >>>>>>> Covid.

    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs >>>>>>> (BB) so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could >>>>>>> not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you
    the "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners
    of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have
    dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate what >>>> sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to pay
    10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa


    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at the
    Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor, Pennsylvania.

    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back for
    a $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and
    $25 for the buy back.

    And from another source....

    "It is $15 per item to register. Buy backs are $10 per item so it
    costs $25 to run it through."

    I suspect this one is accurate.  The $25 comment on the previous one
    must include the registration fee.


    WOW!   Thanks for that information.  I understand now why there are so many "BuyBacks" (just a generous term for a reserve price).

    I hope that information is made clear to all the bidders.

    - Kerry

    eBay also allows this sort of practice, and now it is harder to spot
    shill bidders there ever since eBay stopped the practice of listing the 'handle' of the buyer.

    John :-#(#
    --
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    John's Jukes Ltd.
    MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
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  • From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Friday, November 05, 2021 16:10:51
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 11/2/21 9:33 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 11/1/2021 4:36 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 4:01 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote: >>>>>> On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin >>>>>>>> wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700
    91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since >>>>>>> Covid.

    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs >>>>>>> (BB) so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that could >>>>>>> not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you
    the "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners
    of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have
    dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate what >>>> sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to pay
    10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa


    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at the
    Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor, Pennsylvania.

    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back for
    a $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and
    $25 for the buy back.

    And from another source....

    "It is $15 per item to register. Buy backs are $10 per item so it
    costs $25 to run it through."

    I suspect this one is accurate.  The $25 comment on the previous one
    must include the registration fee.


    WOW!   Thanks for that information.  I understand now why there are so many "BuyBacks" (just a generous term for a reserve price).

    I hope that information is made clear to all the bidders.

    - Kerry

    I have never heard it mentioned, but I have never been there at the
    beginning of the auction. Perhaps the rules are spelled out then?

    I do not see it on the website. This is as close as I can find:

    https://auctiongamesales.com/faq/

    WHAT ARE THE FEES CHARGED BY THE AUCTION COMPANY TO SELL AN ITEM?

    There is a $15 per item registration fee to enter the item into the
    auction. There is also a commission charged once the item is sold. This commission works on a sliding scale. The Commission is 10% with a
    minimum charge of $10 per item and a maximum charge of $100 per item.
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From Kerry Imming@kcimming@pobox.com to rec.games.pinball on Saturday, November 06, 2021 07:12:51
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 11/5/2021 3:10 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/2/21 9:33 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 11/1/2021 4:36 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 4:01 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4, LexingtonVAPin >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700 >>>>>>>>>> 91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since >>>>>>>> Covid.

    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs >>>>>>>> (BB) so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that
    could not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you
    the "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the owners >>>>>> of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have
    dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate
    what sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing to >>>>> pay 10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa


    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at
    the Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor, Pennsylvania. >>>>
    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back
    for a $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and
    $25 for the buy back.

    And from another source....

    "It is $15 per item to register. Buy backs are $10 per item so it
    costs $25 to run it through."

    I suspect this one is accurate.  The $25 comment on the previous one
    must include the registration fee.


    WOW!   Thanks for that information.  I understand now why there are so >> many "BuyBacks" (just a generous term for a reserve price).

    I hope that information is made clear to all the bidders.

    - Kerry

    I have never heard it mentioned, but I have never been there at the beginning of the auction. Perhaps the rules are spelled out then?

    I do not see it on the website.  This is as close as I can find:

    https://auctiongamesales.com/faq/

    WHAT ARE THE FEES CHARGED BY THE AUCTION COMPANY TO SELL AN ITEM?

    There is a $15 per item registration fee to enter the item into the
    auction. There is also a commission charged once the item is sold. This commission works on a sliding scale. The Commission is 10% with a
    minimum charge of $10 per item and a maximum charge of $100 per item.


    Thank you for finding/posting that. It hadn't occurred to me that there
    would be a maximum commission. So even if they followed the rules a
    $6700 buyback would only cost them $115.

    - Kerry
    --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
  • From LexingtonVAPin@lhammer610@yahoo.com to rec.games.pinball on Saturday, November 06, 2021 13:14:20
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.pinball

    On 11/6/21 8:12 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 11/5/2021 3:10 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/2/21 9:33 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 11/1/2021 4:36 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 4:01 PM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 11/1/21 10:31 AM, Kerry Imming wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 11:35 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-4, Kerry Imming
    wrote:
    On 10/29/2021 8:44 AM, LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    On 10/28/21 12:44 AM, Pin Del wrote:
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-4,
    LexingtonVAPin wrote:
    ID Sell/Buy Name $

    91-9/413 Tales From the Crypt - topper and color DMD $4700 >>>>>>>>>>> 91-8/216 Baywatch $3200  BB
    69-6/194 Pin Bot $1800  BB
    2-18/210 Shaq $800
    35-4/652 Led Zep $5000
    35-5/403 Golden Eye $2900
    1-5/121 Munsters Pro $5400
    78-1/222 Cue Ball W $2000
    78-3/203 T2 $3800  BB
    30-20/110 Transformers LE $6000
    78-2/403 Stern NFL $4800
    9-8/403 Stern NFL $4800
    28-1/400 LOTR $5000
    1-8/400 Deadpool $5700
    30-5/110 Game of Thrones $5100
    58-8/658 Cyclone $1900
    58-2/214 Stars (Stern) $600
    58-11/108 DE - Star Trek $3000
    58-1/400 Indep Day $2950
    58-12/108 NGG $4100
    83-3/208 Safecracker $6700  BB
    83-4/616 Pinball 2000 SW Ep1 $3900
    61-4/121 Guardians of the Galaxy $6100
    61-6/186 Stranger Things $5000  BB
    63-1/400 Sopranos $4200
    63-6/408 Getaway HS2 $3400
    88-4/222 Stern ST Prem $5600
    89-5/133 Shadow $3700
    67-4/658 No Fear $4100
    67-3/192 Spiderman $4800  BB
    52-1/413 Williams Fast Ball $600
    53-1/644 FP2 No Playfield Glass rough $350
    53-2/198 Mata Hari $325
    67-1/192 Game of Thrones $4900  BB
    67-2/645 Sharpshooter $275
    71-4/436 Jack*Bot (broken translite glass) $2850
    72-1/213 Demo Man $2400
    74-2/222 Pin Bot $2000
    74-3/222 Cyclone $2000
    74-4/199 Title Fight Gottlieb $2000
    99-1/225 LAH $2500  BB
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/


    Thanks Lex !

    Pin-Del,


    You are welcome Pin-Del.

    It was packed.  Items for auction and people.  First one since >>>>>>>>> Covid.

    I do have some updates.  I didn't indicate which are buy backs >>>>>>>>> (BB) so I
    edited the list above to include it.

    There was also a Comet (I think) not setup on a pallet that >>>>>>>>> could not be
    easily inspected.  $250.

    Just curious. How much do those buy-backs cost?

    - Kerry


    I'm related to one of the long time sellers there & can tell you >>>>>>> the "Regulars" pay little to nothing to do a BB,
    Which is why I quit going. I'm not going to bid against the
    owners of the games ,

    That said, Those BBs were not my cousins games or he would have >>>>>>> dumped them at those prices

    Pin-Del,


    That would change the whole auction.  I was trying to calculate
    what sellers thought the game must be worth if they were willing
    to pay 10-15% plus haul the game to another sale.

    - Kerry

    This is the same company, so I expect the fees are the same.

    https://www.knapparcade.org/post/arcade-auction-amusement-game-sales-amusement-and-vending-auction-kalahari-convention-poconos-pa


    Auction Game Sales held an arcade, vending and pinball auction at
    the Convention Center at Kalahari Resort in Pocono Manor,
    Pennsylvania.

    "Bidders were allowed to bid on their own games and buy them back
    for a $25 fee...."

    So the sellers total cost on a buy back is $15 registration fee and >>>>> $25 for the buy back.

    And from another source....

    "It is $15 per item to register. Buy backs are $10 per item so it
    costs $25 to run it through."

    I suspect this one is accurate.  The $25 comment on the previous one >>>> must include the registration fee.


    WOW!   Thanks for that information.  I understand now why there are
    so many "BuyBacks" (just a generous term for a reserve price).

    I hope that information is made clear to all the bidders.

    - Kerry

    I have never heard it mentioned, but I have never been there at the
    beginning of the auction. Perhaps the rules are spelled out then?

    I do not see it on the website.  This is as close as I can find:

    https://auctiongamesales.com/faq/

    WHAT ARE THE FEES CHARGED BY THE AUCTION COMPANY TO SELL AN ITEM?

    There is a $15 per item registration fee to enter the item into the
    auction. There is also a commission charged once the item is sold.
    This commission works on a sliding scale. The Commission is 10% with a
    minimum charge of $10 per item and a maximum charge of $100 per item.


    Thank you for finding/posting that.  It hadn't occurred to me that there would be a maximum commission.  So even if they followed the rules a
    $6700 buyback would only cost them $115.

    - Kerry

    From what I am told, that buyback only costs the seller $10 (total $25 including registration) regardless of the buyback price.

    I think that the higher commission only occurs on a true transaction / sale.

    But I do not know that for certain.

    Buyers get hit, too. The NC sales tax plus the local tax in W-S is 7%.

    The easiest way to pay is with credit card. I believe that adds 5% to
    the price. So the buyer pays an extra 12% to get out the door.

    I paid with cash once. They took it, but were not too happy.

    Businesses avoid the sales tax.
    --
    http://orcalcoast.com/
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