I have this Maverick that will not boot up. Has a brand new power supply from Gulf. All voltages test good. Upon turning the machine on, I get
5VDC LED on the MPU and nothing else.
Board has zero battery damage.
I wanted to test another 6802 cpu, but had none on hand. Ordered a
couple and they just came in. Popped one in today with only the 5v &
ground connected (CN13?), i got some other activity on the LEDs.
Added connectors 1 by 1 and all seemed great. The machine was working. Turned it off and back on 1 more time, back to square one :(
Could one of the large caps cause this?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Paul
On 2021/05/27 7:15 p.m., Paul wrote:Unplug everything from the mpu except the power plug. Turn the game on. If you have activity, turn the game off and plug in something new. Turn the game on and check the functionality. When the game stops booting properly, you have a clue to the problem. From your initial posting, it seemed that you were plugging things into the mpu while it was turned on. Turn it off before you add each plug and turn it back on after you add the plug.
I have this Maverick that will not boot up. Has a brand new power supply from Gulf. All voltages test good. Upon turning the machine on, I get
5VDC LED on the MPU and nothing else.
Board has zero battery damage.
I wanted to test another 6802 cpu, but had none on hand. Ordered a
couple and they just came in. Popped one in today with only the 5v & ground connected (CN13?), i got some other activity on the LEDs.
Added connectors 1 by 1 and all seemed great. The machine was working. Turned it off and back on 1 more time, back to square one :(
Could one of the large caps cause this?
Any thoughts appreciated.
PaulIf the 5VDC power seems good at the main board then not booting is more likely something wrong with the logic. If you are up to it there are
some test procedures you can do based on some aftermarket service tools.
I'd check out pinwiki.com to see what is currently out there. It will
help if you have an EPROM burner to make the test EPROM...
IPDB info -manuals, photos:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Pinwiki:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Start with section 4.6.10 - Reset - if that is bad the MPU won't boot.
I assume there is no indication on the MPU LED about what might be
wrong? See section 4.6.14
John :-#)#
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On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 10:07:36 AM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2021/05/27 7:15 p.m., Paul wrote:
I have this Maverick that will not boot up. Has a brand new power supply >>> from Gulf. All voltages test good. Upon turning the machine on, I getIf the 5VDC power seems good at the main board then not booting is more
5VDC LED on the MPU and nothing else.
Board has zero battery damage.
I wanted to test another 6802 cpu, but had none on hand. Ordered a
couple and they just came in. Popped one in today with only the 5v &
ground connected (CN13?), i got some other activity on the LEDs.
Added connectors 1 by 1 and all seemed great. The machine was working.
Turned it off and back on 1 more time, back to square one :(
Could one of the large caps cause this?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Paul
likely something wrong with the logic. If you are up to it there are
some test procedures you can do based on some aftermarket service tools.
I'd check out pinwiki.com to see what is currently out there. It will
help if you have an EPROM burner to make the test EPROM...
IPDB info -manuals, photos:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Pinwiki:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Start with section 4.6.10 - Reset - if that is bad the MPU won't boot.
I assume there is no indication on the MPU LED about what might be
wrong? See section 4.6.14
John :-#)#
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John's Jukes Ltd.
MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
Unplug everything from the mpu except the power plug. Turn the game on. If you have activity, turn the game off and plug in something new. Turn the game on and check the functionality. When the game stops booting properly, you have a clue to the problem. From your initial posting, it seemed that you were plugging things into the mpu while it was turned on. Turn it off before you add each plug and turn it back on after you add the plug.
Pinworks
On 2021/05/27 7:15 p.m., Paul wrote:
I have this Maverick that will not boot up. Has a brand new power
supply from Gulf. All voltages test good. Upon turning the machine on,
I get 5VDC LED on the MPU and nothing else.
Board has zero battery damage.
I wanted to test another 6802 cpu, but had none on hand. Ordered a
couple and they just came in. Popped one in today with only the 5v &
ground connected (CN13?), i got some other activity on the LEDs.
Added connectors 1 by 1 and all seemed great. The machine was working.
Turned it off and back on 1 more time, back to square one :(
Could one of the large caps cause this?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Paul
If the 5VDC power seems good at the main board then not booting is more likely something wrong with the logic. If you are up to it there are
some test procedures you can do based on some aftermarket service tools.
I'd check out pinwiki.com to see what is currently out there. It will
help if you have an EPROM burner to make the test EPROM...
IPDB info -manuals, photos:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Pinwiki:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Start with section 4.6.10 - Reset - if that is bad the MPU won't boot.
I assume there is no indication on the MPU LED about what might be
wrong? See section 4.6.14
John :-#)#
On 5/28/2021 10:07 AM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2021/05/27 7:15 p.m., Paul wrote:John,
I have this Maverick that will not boot up. Has a brand new power
supply from Gulf. All voltages test good. Upon turning the machine
on, I get 5VDC LED on the MPU and nothing else.
Board has zero battery damage.
I wanted to test another 6802 cpu, but had none on hand. Ordered a
couple and they just came in. Popped one in today with only the 5v &
ground connected (CN13?), i got some other activity on the LEDs.
Added connectors 1 by 1 and all seemed great. The machine was
working. Turned it off and back on 1 more time, back to square one :(
Could one of the large caps cause this?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Paul
If the 5VDC power seems good at the main board then not booting is
more likely something wrong with the logic. If you are up to it there
are some test procedures you can do based on some aftermarket service
tools. I'd check out pinwiki.com to see what is currently out there.
It will help if you have an EPROM burner to make the test EPROM...
IPDB info -manuals, photos:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Pinwiki:
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1561
Start with section 4.6.10 - Reset - if that is bad the MPU won't boot.
I assume there is no indication on the MPU LED about what might be
wrong? See section 4.6.14
John :-#)#
Using the Data East test rom while beneficial isn't going to help me
on this issue it appears. I get maybe 2 minutes before the game locks up from a cold start. Either a heat issue or when a cap charges? Thats why
I asked if the 2 large caps could cause a lockup.
Both caps around the battery were bad. One was leaking, the other had
high esr. Replaced both, no change. Guessing they are pretty much for
the charging circuit anyways.
Paul
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