Hi All,In test nothing else is going so it gets more power. Does it move freely ? Might need a good cleaning and new coil sleeve, check plunger for a mushroomed bottom or sharp edge, dragging in the coil sleeve. The part that kicks the ball does it hit the center of the ball or a glancing blow ?
Ok, so I was working on a Fish Tales for a friend. The eject hole on the top right , when the ball lands in it , its very weak. It may take a kick or two to get it out and its very weak.
But, in diagonstics, when I test that eject hole, it works great, Its super strong. I have the test repeating that solenoid, and I will even throw the ball in there and it kicks it out strong!
Question: What is my problem?
John
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:14:27 AM UTC-6, Grojohn wrote:--- Synchronet 3.18a-Linux NewsLink 1.113
Hi All,
Ok, so I was working on a Fish Tales for a friend. The eject hole on the top right , when the ball lands in it , its very weak. It may take a kick or two to get it out and its very weak.
But, in diagonstics, when I test that eject hole, it works great, Its super strong. I have the test repeating that solenoid, and I will even throw the ball in there and it kicks it out strong!
Question: What is my problem?
JohnIn test nothing else is going so it gets more power. Does it move freely ? Might need a good cleaning and new coil sleeve, check plunger for a mushroomed bottom or sharp edge, dragging in the coil sleeve. The part that kicks the ball does it hit the center of the ball or a glancing blow ?
LTG : )
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 10:56:21 AM UTC-6, originalll...@gmail.com wrote:Moves great, parts are fine. Solenoid test kicks that muther out fine. Its just when the game is played, its like a shorter burst of energy for some reason.
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:14:27 AM UTC-6, Grojohn wrote:
Hi All,
Ok, so I was working on a Fish Tales for a friend. The eject hole on the top right , when the ball lands in it , its very weak. It may take a kick or two to get it out and its very weak.
But, in diagonstics, when I test that eject hole, it works great, Its super strong. I have the test repeating that solenoid, and I will even throw the ball in there and it kicks it out strong!
Question: What is my problem?
JohnIn test nothing else is going so it gets more power. Does it move freely ? Might need a good cleaning and new coil sleeve, check plunger for a mushroomed bottom or sharp edge, dragging in the coil sleeve. The part that kicks the ball does it hit the center of the ball or a glancing blow ?
LTG : )
I had a similar problem with the shooter lane upkick on my TAF recently, and I did a couple things:I did not clean, but I will try it.
- I found a couple of leaf switches were stuck closed, I adjusted them and the upkick worked better, but still not perfect. (Seems weird and could have been completely unrelated.)
- Even though it seemed to be freely moving, I took it out and cleaned it anyway. I didn't think this was the issue because, like you, it would seem to work fine during tests. However after a thorough cleaning and degreasing, it started working perfectly, so can't argue with results.
Hope that helps some.
Gabriel
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 4:09:49 PM UTC-6, gabrie...@gmail.com wrote:Long shot, but are you running the latest game software (L5)? Sometimes they tweak the "on" time of certain solenoids. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a change log provided with the latest ROM I found, so it's hard to know if this might be the issue.
I had a similar problem with the shooter lane upkick on my TAF recently, and I did a couple things:
- I found a couple of leaf switches were stuck closed, I adjusted them and the upkick worked better, but still not perfect. (Seems weird and could have been completely unrelated.)
- Even though it seemed to be freely moving, I took it out and cleaned it anyway. I didn't think this was the issue because, like you, it would seem to work fine during tests. However after a thorough cleaning and degreasing, it started working perfectly, so can't argue with results.
Hope that helps some.
GabrielI did not clean, but I will try it.
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 4:09:49 PM UTC-6, gabrie...@gmail.com wrote:
I had a similar problem with the shooter lane upkick on my TAF recently, and I did a couple things:I did not clean, but I will try it.
- I found a couple of leaf switches were stuck closed, I adjusted them and the upkick worked better, but still not perfect. (Seems weird and could have been completely unrelated.)
- Even though it seemed to be freely moving, I took it out and cleaned it anyway. I didn't think this was the issue because, like you, it would seem to work fine during tests. However after a thorough cleaning and degreasing, it started working perfectly, so can't argue with results.
Hope that helps some.
Gabriel
On 2021/01/27 6:37 p.m., Grojohn wrote:
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 4:09:49 PM UTC-6,
gabrie...@gmail.com wrote:
I had a similar problem with the shooter lane upkick on my TAFI did not clean, but I will try it.
recently, and I did a couple things:
- I found a couple of leaf switches were stuck closed, I adjusted
them and the upkick worked better, but still not perfect. (Seems
weird and could have been completely unrelated.)
- Even though it seemed to be freely moving, I took it out and
cleaned it anyway. I didn't think this was the issue because, like
you, it would seem to work fine during tests. However after a
thorough cleaning and degreasing, it started working perfectly, so
can't argue with results.
Hope that helps some.
Gabriel
Don't just spray something (WD-40? Gah!!!!). Take the coil off and clean
the plunger and sleeve with mild solvent - Varsol, etc.
Chances are someone lubed it in the past and this has started to gum up.
The metal pivot needs a drop or two of 20W non-detergent motor oil - 3-in-one Blue motor oil (not the red can!), Zoom Spout Turbine oil (very handy applicator tube!) or sewing machine oil are best.
John :-#)#
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