• Tech: Gottlieb Sea Shore EM 2nd player 100 scoring

    From Carl@carl123@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 08:34:38
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    Just cleaned, adjusted and set up a 1964 Sea Shore and everything is working now except 2nd player 100 pts scoring during game play. Sometimes the 100 pt reel advances but mostly doesn't advance past 100.

    I cleaned and checked operation of all 6 score reels in game.

    100 pts score reel does advance:
    1. when another pt is added to 99 pts but never advances past 100
    2. when I manually pull the Q 100 pt relay the reel advances.

    So one player games works great but for 2 players the 2nd player is not getting an accurate score since 100 pt reel isnt advancing like it should.
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  • From Dan Beck@djbgasman@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:38:42
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    Myself having restored this title and with the schematic in hand I would say you need to look at one of the three make-break switches (‘C’ switch) in the P relay. Look for fouled points, or broken solders. The trick of course is to figure out which of the three it is...
    Regards,
    Dan
    On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:34:52 AM UTC-7, Carl wrote:
    Just cleaned, adjusted and set up a 1964 Sea Shore and everything is working now except 2nd player 100 pts scoring during game play. Sometimes the 100 pt reel advances but mostly doesn't advance past 100.

    I cleaned and checked operation of all 6 score reels in game.

    100 pts score reel does advance:
    1. when another pt is added to 99 pts but never advances past 100
    2. when I manually pull the Q 100 pt relay the reel advances.

    So one player games works great but for 2 players the 2nd player is not getting an accurate score since 100 pt reel isnt advancing like it should.
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  • From Carl@carl123@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 16:38:16
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    I will look at the P relay. Thanks Dan.
    On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:38:57 PM UTC-4, djbg...@gmail.com wrote:
    Myself having restored this title and with the schematic in hand I would say you need to look at one of the three make-break switches (‘C’ switch) in the P relay. Look for fouled points, or broken solders. The trick of course is to figure out which of the three it is...

    Regards,
    Dan
    On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:34:52 AM UTC-7, Carl wrote:
    Just cleaned, adjusted and set up a 1964 Sea Shore and everything is working now except 2nd player 100 pts scoring during game play. Sometimes the 100 pt reel advances but mostly doesn't advance past 100.

    I cleaned and checked operation of all 6 score reels in game.

    100 pts score reel does advance:
    1. when another pt is added to 99 pts but never advances past 100
    2. when I manually pull the Q 100 pt relay the reel advances.

    So one player games works great but for 2 players the 2nd player is not getting an accurate score since 100 pt reel isnt advancing like it should.
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  • From Carl@carl123@gmail.com to rec.games.pinball on Sunday, October 25, 2020 10:21:29
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    Scoring fixed!. Turns out it was a make/break sw on the Player Score Control Relay O. And it turns out this was the first relay I readjusted after turning on the machine for the first time because it was buzzing loudly. The difference in making it work was the tightness of the relay screwed into the backbox bank of relays - finding the right balance of eleminating the buzz but not making it so tight to mess up the make/break.
    On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 7:38:26 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:
    I will look at the P relay. Thanks Dan.
    On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:38:57 PM UTC-4, djbg...@gmail.com wrote:
    Myself having restored this title and with the schematic in hand I would say you need to look at one of the three make-break switches (‘C’ switch) in the P relay. Look for fouled points, or broken solders. The trick of course is to figure out which of the three it is...

    Regards,
    Dan
    On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 8:34:52 AM UTC-7, Carl wrote:
    Just cleaned, adjusted and set up a 1964 Sea Shore and everything is working now except 2nd player 100 pts scoring during game play. Sometimes the 100 pt reel advances but mostly doesn't advance past 100.

    I cleaned and checked operation of all 6 score reels in game.

    100 pts score reel does advance:
    1. when another pt is added to 99 pts but never advances past 100
    2. when I manually pull the Q 100 pt relay the reel advances.

    So one player games works great but for 2 players the 2nd player is not getting an accurate score since 100 pt reel isnt advancing like it should.
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