• Apple Classic

    From niter3@21:1/199 to All on Wednesday, October 09, 2024 06:19:24
    Anyone here revived or built emulated Apple Classic units?

    Been looking at things, but it appears its not nearly as popular as the Amiga scene...

    I'm not seeing any current developed games or apps for the older Apples. Unless I'm blind? :>

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  • From dingo@21:1/121 to niter3 on Tuesday, November 05, 2024 21:20:20

    On Wednesday, October 9th niter3 was heard saying...
    Anyone here revived or built emulated Apple Classic units?

    Been looking at things, but it appears its not nearly as popular as the Amiga scene...

    I think you are talking about Apple Macintosh Classic? The old Macintoshes with Black & White Graphics?

    https://infinitemac.org/ is a really good online resource, using WASM I think to migrate several classic Macintosh emulators in the browser. I have used this emulator to successfully install System 6, 7, and 8 into a "hard disk" and export that for use on real 68k and early powerpc apples. Otherwise, emulators are really hard to get going, gathering & configuring ROM's and stuff.

    And the "floppyemu" that is useful for Apple ]['s is also compatible with all of the classic Macintoshes. They're all pretty easy to repair, BlueSCSI makes great hard drive replacements, and I also switch out the models with a fan with a Noctua for complete silence.

    Old Macintoshes are dog slow. Especially for games. A few games, like Crystal Quest and Arkanoid provide smooth graphics but those are the exception. Many of the best games are available on other platforms, and they're all better over there -- SimCity, Civilization, Railroad Tycoon. But at least for the Macintosh SE, MacEffects just released a fairly affordable $129 68030 accelerator.

    You can also pretty much say the same about powerpc macintoshes, games like Starcraft, Warcraft 1&2, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and more are available -- but they are also available on other platforms. There are very few unique titles, such as "Marathon" which still have a bit of a following.

    Classic Macintoshes were primarily used for word processing and spreadsheets, it was really difficult to develop for at the time and still are today, in that there is very little for modern cross-compile tools etc. and it was

    Contributors of BlueSCSI have recently rallied together to creaet a few great tools for System 6 through 9, https://bluescsi.com/docs/Toolbox so *somebody* is developing for it, I was really elated to see it.

    Anyway look hard enough you will find a few small interesting projects, I just stumbled on this "video player" for classic macs https://www.macflim.com/




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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to dingo on Wednesday, November 06, 2024 10:35:45
    I think you are talking about Apple Macintosh Classic? The old
    Macintoshes with Black & White Graphics?

    https://infinitemac.org/ is a really good online resource, using WASM I think to migrate several classic Macintosh emulators in the browser. I have used this emulator to successfully install System 6, 7, and 8 into
    a "hard disk" and export that for use on real 68k and early powerpc apples. Otherwise, emulators are really hard to get going, gathering & configuring ROM's and stuff.

    And the "floppyemu" that is useful for Apple ]['s is also compatible
    with all of the classic Macintoshes. They're all pretty easy to repair, BlueSCSI makes great hard drive replacements, and I also switch out the models with a fan with a Noctua for complete silence.

    Old Macintoshes are dog slow. Especially for games. A few games, like Crystal Quest and Arkanoid provide smooth graphics but those are the exception. Many of the best games are available on other platforms, and they're all better over there -- SimCity, Civilization, Railroad Tycoon. But at least for the Macintosh SE, MacEffects just released a fairly affordable $129 68030 accelerator.

    You can also pretty much say the same about powerpc macintoshes, games like Starcraft, Warcraft 1&2, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and more are available -- but they are also available on other platforms. There are very few unique titles, such as "Marathon" which still have a bit of a following.

    Classic Macintoshes were primarily used for word processing and spreadsheets, it was really difficult to develop for at the time and
    still are today, in that there is very little for modern cross-compile tools etc. and it was

    Contributors of BlueSCSI have recently rallied together to creaet a few great tools for System 6 through 9, https://bluescsi.com/docs/Toolbox so *somebody* is developing for it, I was really elated to see it.
    Anyway look hard enough you will find a few small interesting projects,
    I just stumbled on this "video player" for classic macs https://www.macflim.com/


    All great info and links, thank you.

    My question is more around, has anyone put together a Apple MAC Classic case with a PI in it for emulation? I've seend a couple videos out there, but just wondering if others have done it?

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  • From massive@21:3/178 to niter3 on Friday, November 15, 2024 13:13:29
    So a few people are going the other way (myself included for fun) of putting classic compact Mac motherboards into new cases and using modern psu and video (i.e to HDMI)... that is fun.

    But to put a Pi-based emulation of MacOS into a Classic (i.e. compact) Mac case is easy- there is a new device out that does everything for you: https://jcm-1.com/product/macpicovid-extended/

    With that MacPico you just need to replace the CRT with a similar size panel that
    accepts VGA and you are pretty much done.

    Or did you have a more complext solution in mind?

    -andy

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  • From paul@21:3/195 to massive on Friday, November 15, 2024 16:16:48
    But to put a Pi-based emulation of MacOS into a Classic (i.e. compact)
    Mac case is easy- there is a new device out that does everything for you: https://jcm-1.com/product/macpicovid-extended/


    Does the Pi use the keyboard in the Mac case?

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