El 9/9/20 a las 21:03, Avon escribió:

Is there a preferred distro to use or avoid for setting up a HUB under Linux when looking to run software like BinkD and HPT, freq tools etc.

I was thinking something like Debian or CentOS ??

Debian, you can get binkd from ofical repository and compile husky tools
, crashmail etc as you need.
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Ragnarok wrote to Avon <=-

El 9/9/20 a las 21:03, Avon escribi¢:

Is there a preferred distro to use or avoid for setting up a HUB under Linux when looking to run software like BinkD and HPT, freq tools etc.

I was thinking something like Debian or CentOS ??

Debian, you can get binkd from ofical repository and compile husky
tools , crashmail etc as you need.

+1
I'm running Devuan (Debian minus SystemD... if I wanted a centralize db I'd
run Windows!) with SBBS and that has as I'm sure you know BinkIt.

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I'm running Devuan (Debian minus SystemD... if I wanted a centralize db I'd run Windows!) with SBBS and that has as I'm sure you know BinkIt.

I'm glad to see anything minus sysd - it has infected everything (at least everything that seems to have a future in the Linux space - I hope some will disagree here, it wouldn't hurt my feelings).

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Dave

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Hello Dave;

Lightman wrote to N1uro <=-

I'm glad to see anything minus sysd - it has infected everything (at
least everything that seems to have a future in the Linux space - I
hope some will disagree here, it wouldn't hurt my feelings).

My fedora test box is systemd. They boasted how it would make linux load faster... but I strongly disagree! Want a faster boot? Get a faster CPU. For years I developed under Debian but once systemd came out and so did Devuan,
I made the change. Now I understand there's going to be a BSD type port of Debian. I would like to see what they do!

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Lightman wrote to N1uro <=-

I'm running Devuan (Debian minus SystemD... if I wanted a centralize db I'd run Windows!) with SBBS and that has as I'm sure you know BinkIt.

I'm glad to see anything minus sysd - it has infected everything
(at least everything that seems to have a future in the Linux
space - I hope some will disagree here, it wouldn't hurt my
feelings).

Slackware Linux is systemd-free, and likely always will be.



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Am 19.05.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_NET:

Hallo N1uro,

I'm running Devuan (Debian minus SystemD... if I wanted a centralize db I'd run Windows!) with SBBS and that has as I'm sure you know BinkIt.

Same here, I'm also using Devuan with Synchronet.

For using binkd + hpt + golded, there is an interesting project called "Fidian" which wants to make the usage of these tools more easy: https://www.kuehlbox.wtf/fidian

This adds a Debian repository which adds the missing packages and
configures everything.

But I did not try it for myself :)

Regards,
Anna

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Hello Ann;

acn wrote to N1uro <=-

Same here, I'm also using Devuan with Synchronet.

Seems like a nice combo! I really don't have any complaints.

For using binkd + hpt + golded, there is an interesting project called "Fidian" which wants to make the usage of these tools more easy: https://www.kuehlbox.wtf/fidian

My install of Synchronet has it all built in except for multimail however that's in the repositories.

This adds a Debian repository which adds the missing packages and configures everything.

I found compiling and running make install did what I needed it to do.
I already had dosemu and a few other toys installed for ham radio usage.

But I did not try it for myself :)

I don't think I'll have a need to try it. I could install it on a test
machine I suppose.

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Am 20.05.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_NET:

Hallo N1uro,

Same here, I'm also using Devuan with Synchronet.

Seems like a nice combo! I really don't have any complaints.

Dito :)

For using binkd + hpt + golded, there is an interesting project called ac>> "Fidian" which wants to make the usage of these tools more easy:
https://www.kuehlbox.wtf/fidian

My install of Synchronet has it all built in except for multimail however that's in the repositories.

Same here. I just wanted to mention it as an alternative if someone just wants to use binkd+hpt+golded without a BBS attached to it.

This adds a Debian repository which adds the missing packages and
configures everything.

I found compiling and running make install did what I needed it to do.
I already had dosemu and a few other toys installed for ham radio usage.

I also compiled a dosemu version for my Devuan box (although I've created
a .deb package) myself which works quite well for me :)
And yes, normally using eg. configure/make/make install is working just
fine :)

Regards,
Anna

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acn wrote to N1uro <=-

Same here. I just wanted to mention it as an alternative if someone
just wants to use binkd+hpt+golded without a BBS attached to it.

That's great to hear! I know someone in my fido area who does just that.
He may be a good candidate to test it with.

I also compiled a dosemu version for my Devuan box (although I've
created a .deb package) myself which works quite well for me :)
And yes, normally using eg. configure/make/make install is working just fine :)

If you set your dosemu.cfg file so that video=none, you can then set
your dos conventional ram to 756K... the bbs will push your video for you
so you shouldn't have any issues. I do that on amateur radio packet with
my instance of MFNOS and even the author of the program is amazed at the conventional memory left after it's loaded. I should have about 50K on a standard DOS system but I actually have over 300K of conventional left.
You may find some games will run a bit smoother.

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Slackware Linux is systemd-free, and likely always will be.

Ah nice - I haven't kept up with Slackware. The last I installed it
was after I saw a 4 CD set at Dayton Hamfest in 1993/4... so its been a while... lol

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Am 21.05.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_NET:

Hallo N1uro,

Same here. I just wanted to mention it as an alternative if someone
just wants to use binkd+hpt+golded without a BBS attached to it.

That's great to hear! I know someone in my fido area who does just that.
He may be a good candidate to test it with.

Another idea, which is way easier (in my opinion), is to use OpenXP as a point software. I guess it is comparable to golded, but has everything
needed to poll for packets built-in. You just have so search a BBS uplink
and register as a point. And you also don't have to have binkp running as
a daemon all the time :)

If you set your dosemu.cfg file so that video=none, you can then set
your dos conventional ram to 756K... the bbs will push your video for you
so you shouldn't have any issues. I do that on amateur radio packet with
my instance of MFNOS and even the author of the program is amazed at the conventional memory left after it's loaded. I should have about 50K on a standard DOS system but I actually have over 300K of conventional left.
You may find some games will run a bit smoother.

Thank you for this hint!
Although, at the moment at least, all my doors are running fine :)

Regards,
Anna

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Hello Anna;

acn wrote to N1uro <=-

Another idea, which is way easier (in my opinion), is to use OpenXP as
a point software. I guess it is comparable to golded, but has
everything needed to poll for packets built-in. You just have so search
a BBS uplink and register as a point. And you also don't have to have binkp running as a daemon all the time :)

In my case, the server is up 24/7 except when there's a power issue that's drained my UPS or I'm running my clonezilla month-end backup.

Thank you for this hint!
Although, at the moment at least, all my doors are running fine :)

If it's not broke, don't fix it!



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Am 25.05.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_NET:

Hallo N1uro,

Another idea, which is way easier (in my opinion), is to use OpenXP as ac>> a point software. I guess it is comparable to golded, but has
everything needed to poll for packets built-in. You just have so search ac>> a BBS uplink and register as a point. And you also don't have to have
binkp running as a daemon all the time :)

In my case, the server is up 24/7 except when there's a power issue that's drained my UPS or I'm running my clonezilla month-end backup.

;-)
Same here, I'm using OpenXP via SSH on one of my servers because I prefer
its ease of use.
I think it is a little easier to handle compared to binkd/hpt/golded as it
is menu-driven rather than config-file-driven.

So, if someone just wants to be part of the message networks, OpenXP is a fine solution and easier than binkd/hpt/golded or a complete BBS package.
And it is more comfortable than QWK/MultiMail IMHO.

Regards,
Anna

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Hello Anna;

acn wrote to N1uro <=-

;-)
Same here, I'm using OpenXP via SSH on one of my servers because I
prefer its ease of use.
I think it is a little easier to handle compared to binkd/hpt/golded as
it is menu-driven rather than config-file-driven.

So, if someone just wants to be part of the message networks, OpenXP is
a fine solution and easier than binkd/hpt/golded or a complete BBS package. And it is more comfortable than QWK/MultiMail IMHO.

I've always prefered QWK packets... we all have our likes and our dislikes.
I'm glad you found yours. If BlueWave were native to linux I'd be in paradise but MultiMail is doing the job quite well.



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