Hello fusion!

On 08 May 2021, fusion said the following...

Is it possible to use a external full screen edior with Mystic?

I don't think so, not easily anyway.

Mystic. sure there are some gadgets like user taglines that people might want..
but what else?

I'd like it to list the are you're posting to (I forget quickly :-D).

And also that it would set a CHRS kludge dependent on what character encoding the logged-in user is using.

Sometimes the END OF MESSAGE line leaves "residues", and sometimes line breaks are... strange. Also, long lines sometimes get truncated when quoting, so that you don't see the entire line you intend to reply to.

And, if one postpones a message multiple times, I'd wish that only one draft would be saved (the latest). Although that is technically not in the FSE.

Also, a "normal" mail scan during login (that shows all new i.e. unread messages addressed to me) is hard to achieve. Requires lots of fiddling with flags and scanning functions and sometimes still shows messages that you didn't expect it to. The concept of "e-mail" and global personal messages and the scanning of those is confusing, to say the least.

Still, I'm thankful for it being made available. It's got lots of features in one package. But the defaults should be quite different.

Best regards
Zip

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Re: Re: 2 questions
By: Zip to fusion on Sun May 09 2021 11:11 am

Also, a "normal" mail scan during login (that shows all new i.e. unread messages addressed to me) is hard to achieve.

The logon mailscan only looks in the local email base.

Requires lots of fiddling with flags and scanning functions and sometimes still shows messages that you didn't expect it to. The concept of "e-mail" and global personal messages and the scanning of those is confusing, to say the least.

When I want to scan for mail addressed to me, I use the global personal scan and that has always worked well for me. I have every base turned on for scanning (Z from each message group, not sure if the global scan looks at that).

The only thing I find is that the global scan menu needs the /NOLR option added or it sets the last read to the messages read in that scan, so you can miss messages in a new scan.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello Al!

On 09 May 2021, Al said the following...

The logon mailscan only looks in the local email base.

Yep. :)

I added a global personal mail scan right after it (I believe in certain circumstances the global personal mail scan didn't pick up "e-mails").

The only thing I find is that the global scan menu needs the /NOLR
option added or it sets the last read to the messages read in that scan, so you can miss messages in a new scan.

Thanks! Yes, I also noticed this and added it.

Best regards
Zip

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Re: Re: 2 questions
By: Zip to Al on Sun May 09 2021 12:10 pm

I added a global personal mail scan right after it (I believe in certain circumstances the global personal mail scan didn't pick up "e-mails").

Yes, by default the list acs is %, so you need to change that, or find a way to work with it.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I don't think you have an account here but you can login as guest, guest can download anything.

Thought I did

Yep, I can't log in with firefox anymore. I hate that.

ecweb has html downloads, you can log in here..

Ok, will get it that way. Thanks

Mark

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Re: Re: 2 questions
By: TheMadGamerMan to Al on Sat May 15 2021 05:43 pm

I don't think you have an account here but you can login as guest,
guest can download anything.

Thought I did

If you do and you are having issues netmail or email me at agianson@gmail.com and I can look it up and let you know or change the PW for you.

ecweb has html downloads, you can log in here..

Ok, will get it that way. Thanks

Cool, I think that'll work better with modern browsers.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I have fond memories of dctedit and iceedit and I think that is what
folks have in mind. The editor I am using now looks and acts like
iceedit and it can also look like dctedit.

Yet you run Synchronet. Not bashing Synchronet, it's great. I have it intalled as well. I have nothing against Mystic's FSE just wondered if it was possible. I ran a TG bbs back in the day with Iceedit and my 1200 baud modem
is why I wanted to run it or DCTEdit (can't find DCTedit though).

Mark

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/64)
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*** Quoting TheMadGamerMan from a message to Al ***

I ran a TG bbs back in the day with Iceedit and my 1200 baud modem is
why I wanted to run it or DCTEdit (can't find DCTedit though).

Some of us still run Telegard w/ IceEdit... :)

Jay

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Some of us still run Telegard w/ IceEdit... :)

I am considering it, if I can find all I need, and it doesn't cost much to
make it internet ready.

Mark

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Re: 2 questions
By: TheMadGamerMan to Al on Sat May 08 2021 08:37 pm

I ran a TG bbs back in the day with Iceedit and my 1200 baud modem is why I wanted to run it or DCTEdit (can't find DCTedit though).

I have dctedit here although I haven't run it in many years.

I think it suffers from the RTE 200 issue that so many doors from that era do. There are fixes for pascal executibles but I don't know if it can be made to work.

ftp://trmb.synchro.net/bbs/UTILITY/dcted004.zip

The dictionary is ed004dic.zip.

I could binkp them over to you if you like.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Does anyone have the link for a47 I didn't bookmark it, it's not listed on
the main page.

Is it possible to use a external full screen edior with Mystic?

Mark
TheMadGamerMan

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*** Quoting TheMadGamerMan from a message to All ***

Does anyone have the link for a47 I didn't bookmark it, it's not
listed on the main page.

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/


Jay

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Re: 2 questions
By: TheMadGamerMan to All on Sat May 08 2021 11:11 pm

Does anyone have the link for a47 I didn't bookmark it, it's not listed on the main page.

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha

Is it possible to use a external full screen edior with Mystic?

I don't think so, not easily anyway.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/

Thanks

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I don't think so, not easily anyway.

<Sigh> Oh well.

Mark

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On 08 May 2021, Al said the following...

Is it possible to use a external full screen edior with Mystic?

I don't think so, not easily anyway.

i think the Mystic take on the FSE is that it should be as good or better than others.. so that you wouldn't want to use an external one. i can't think of anything i'd want added .. but that's just me.

this is the first time i've heard someone ask about using an external editor in Mystic. sure there are some gadgets like user taglines that people might want.. but what else?

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Re: Re: 2 questions
By: fusion to Al on Sat May 08 2021 12:18 pm

i think the Mystic take on the FSE is that it should be as good or better than others.. so that you wouldn't want to use an external one. i can't think of anything i'd want added .. but that's just me.

I have found the same. Mystic's editor is just what I'd hope an editor on a BBS would be.

this is the first time i've heard someone ask about using an external editor in Mystic.

I have fond memories of dctedit and iceedit and I think that is what folks have in mind. The editor I am using now looks and acts like iceedit and it can also look like dctedit.

sure there are some gadgets like user taglines that people might want.. but what else?

Even that, g00r00 was planning to add support for taglines either in the editor itself or with an mpl, toggleable by the user if desired. It just needs to shake out.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I have dctedit here although I haven't run it in many years.

Thanks tried to logon to get them, but can't remember my pass. I emulate NTVDM64 here and have tppatch, so rt 200 should not be a problem. Also ftp wouldn't connect via chrome.

Mark

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Re: Re: 2 questions
By: TheMadGamerMan to Al on Fri May 14 2021 11:45 pm

Thanks tried to logon to get them, but can't remember my pass.

I don't think you have an account here but you can login as guest, guest can download anything.

telnet://trmb.synchro.net:2030

I emulate NTVDM64 here and have tppatch, so rt 200 should not be a problem. Also ftp wouldn't connect via chrome.

Yep, I can't log in with firefox anymore. I hate that.

ecweb has html downloads, you can log in here..

http://trmb.ddns.net

Then click the files link, then BBS, then utilities. dcted is in there along with the dictionary file.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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