I absolutely CANNOT STAND IT when a coworker uses colours in Excel. OH GOD this is now driving me absolutely bonkers.

This is another pet peeve right up there with An unknown error has
Occured and Candy Crush in my Windows 10 "Professional edition" start-menu and lovely Powershell scripts WhereOneMustAlwaysUseLongFreakingNames.

Yes I know... there are worse things to complain about. Like the Ribbon UI or the sounds of a coworker noisily eating lunch at his desk instead of the designated lunchroom. Scraping utensils. Smelly lunch. I hate tabs in Excel
and especially in my browser but understand those are here to stay. Those of us who hate tabs lost that war years ago. I understand and accepted my fate.

But this is just brutal of a coworker to INSIST on stupid colours when sending me datasets. Uhhh "thank you" but please drop the crayons. What are you, six?

Making changes to such workbooks often breaks this or requires that I somehow "uncolour" things, reformat things. Because the person is not mentally-capable of sending me just the freaking DATA. Get a job in IT, get paid to colour.

Time for a beer...

Atreyu

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Re: Pet peeves...
By: Atreyu to All on Thu Nov 24 2022 03:53 pm

I absolutely CANNOT STAND IT when a coworker uses colours in Excel. OH GOD this is now driving me absolutely bonkers.
But this is just brutal of a coworker to INSIST on stupid colours when sending me datasets. Uhhh "thank you" but please drop the crayons. What are you, six?

mentally-capable of sending me just the freaking DATA. Get a job in IT, get paid to colour.

Might I say this seems like a bit of an overreaction to something with no real consequence.. You seem to feel that there's something juvenile about using colors? Do you also prefer a black & white computer monitor?

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I absolutely CANNOT STAND IT when a coworker uses colours in Excel. OH
GOD this is now driving me absolutely bonkers.

I hear you buddy. When people overload their spreadsheets with colours, it tells me they don't really know how to use spreadsheets, and make poor decisions when it comes to managing data.

Though it is not in my top 10 pet peeves.

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On 24 Nov 22 22:46:07, Nightfox said the following to Atreyu:

Might I say this seems like a bit of an overreaction to something with no re consequence.. You seem to feel that there's something juvenile about using colors? Do you also prefer a black & white computer monitor?

Actually I come from the days of amber-monitors and Lotus 123... when you work with large datasets or complex workbooks with others on Sharepoint in a situation where there are deadlines there is simply no time for crayons. Its distracting, useless and really tells the rest of the team working on the project how inept that person handles data.

Atreyu

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On 24 Nov 2022, Atreyu said the following...

This is another pet peeve right up there with An unknown error has Occured and Candy Crush in my Windows 10 "Professional edition"
start-menu and lovely Powershell scripts WhereOneMustAlwaysUseLongFreakingNames.

Yes I know... there are worse things to complain about. Like the Ribbon
UI or the sounds of a coworker noisily eating lunch at his desk instead of the designated lunchroom. Scraping utensils. Smelly lunch. I hate
tabs in Excel and especially in my browser but understand those are here to stay. Those of us who hate tabs lost that war years ago. I
understand and accepted my fate.

But this is just brutal of a coworker to INSIST on stupid colours when sending me datasets. Uhhh "thank you" but please drop the crayons. What are you, six?

Making changes to such workbooks often breaks this or requires that I somehow "uncolour" things, reformat things. Because the person is not mentally-capable of sending me just the freaking DATA. Get a job in IT, get paid to colour.

Time for a beer...

Atreyu

Well sounds like you should be working from home. Won't fix the excel colors but the rest of it would be better. :D

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This is another pet peeve right up there with An unknown error has
Occured and Candy Crush in my Windows 10 "Professional edition" start-menu and lovely Powershell scripts WhereOneMustAlwaysUseLongFreakingNames.

Powershell commands reminds me of the super old Cobol days. It took a million lines of code to do a simple task, with each variable being rediculously long.

The same routine could be done in 'C' in 3 lines of code.

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Actually I come from the days of amber-monitors and Lotus 123... when you work with large datasets or complex workbooks with others on Sharepoint in
a situation where there are deadlines there is simply no time for crayons. Its distracting, useless and really tells the rest of the team working on the project how inept that person handles data.

Me too, and you had to run QEMM to load all DOS drivers into high memory and get Lotus 123 to use extended memory. I remember some users back then having spreadsheets so large that eventually the only option was to port the data over to Lotus 123 for Windows or Excel.

You had the mouse driver, DOS NIC driver, Novell network driver, etc. Somehow it all just barely worked.

- Mark
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On 25 Nov 22 07:52:06, Claw said the following to Atreyu:

Well sounds like you should be working from home. Won't fix the excel color but the rest of it would be better. :D

I always prefer working from home... less distractions. Unfortunately this current fulltime gig doesn't have too much flexibility with that. For the
most part they have a mentality that you belong at the office and thats that.

I was actually very lucky that when Covid happened it didn't really affect me too much with my career. I lost some business but already had some clients I was supporting remotely prior and if I had to show up on-site it was almost always after-hours.

Atreyu

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On 25 Nov 22 09:53:43, Weatherman said the following to Atreyu:

This is another pet peeve right up there with An unknown error has
Occured and Candy Crush in my Windows 10 "Professional edition" start-menu and lovely Powershell scripts WhereOneMustAlwaysUseLongFreakingNames.

Powershell commands reminds me of the super old Cobol days. It took a milli lines of code to do a simple task, with each variable being rediculously lon

I hate Powershell but actually don't mind VBA in Microsoft Office. VBA is sooooooo easy to script/do quick macros for stupid things you could not do easily in Excel.

Atreyu

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On 25 Nov 22 10:04:44, Weatherman said the following to Atreyu:

Me too, and you had to run QEMM to load all DOS drivers into high memory and get Lotus 123 to use extended memory. I remember some users back then havin spreadsheets so large that eventually the only option was to port the data over to Lotus 123 for Windows or Excel.

You had the mouse driver, DOS NIC driver, Novell network driver, etc. Someh it all just barely worked.

sortof like BBS'ing, Fido, Othernets... :)

It was said recently by someone, which I believe to be THE most accurate description of how "we are" here... that setting this hobby up requires a certain IT-skillset. When we insult eachother or ramble on about tech its because we kinda/sorta know the person on the other end of the keyboard or at least know the other person will at least understand the gist of it.

Its why I don't think our little hobby has much life yet because the novelty of trading silly banter on obsolete tech just cannot be understood by most people today; unless they have an IT background or a serious interest in what is now retro-computing.

Atreyu

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On 25 Nov 2022, Atreyu said the following...

I always prefer working from home... less distractions. Unfortunately
this current fulltime gig doesn't have too much flexibility with that. For the most part they have a mentality that you belong at the office
and thats that.

I was actually very lucky that when Covid happened it didn't really
affect me too much with my career. I lost some business but already had some clients I was supporting remotely prior and if I had to show up on-site it was almost always after-hours.

Atreyu

It sucks that they don't let you work from home. I think companies that could have people working from home and choose not to should have a higher tax since they cost more on public resources. This would incentivize companies
to have people that can work from home, actually do so. And the ones that choose not too can help relieve debt.

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It sucks that they don't let you work from home. I think companies that could have people working from home and choose not to should have a higher tax since they cost more on public resources. This would incentivize companies to have people that can work from home, actually do so. And the ones that choose not too can help relieve debt.

I'm rarely in favor of anything that involves more taxes, but in this case that makes sense. I have never understood employers that require people to come on site just to sit at a desk and do the exact same thing they could be doing remotely - minus the commute. It is very old school thinking where some managers think people won't be productive working from home.

Most people that aren't productive working from home are not productive working in the office, either. They act like they are working in the office, but really doing other things, chatting, or whatever. The same lack luster work ethic, regardless of being in the office or remote.

The only time I go into the office these days is on the rare occation I need to pick something up or some rare on-site meetings.

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Weatherman wrote to Atreyu <=-

Me too, and you had to run QEMM to load all DOS drivers into high
memory and get Lotus 123 to use extended memory. I remember some users back then having spreadsheets so large that eventually the only option
was to port the data over to Lotus 123 for Windows or Excel.

You had the mouse driver, DOS NIC driver, Novell network driver, etc. Somehow it all just barely worked.

I got my start in *nix with a company running IBM S/38 and AS/400 midrange computers. They had reportwriter software that offloaded the reporting to a SCO Xenix box. We used an IBM PS/2 mod 80 with a digiboard and 12 terminals, running 1-2-3 for Xenix. Worked pretty well for a time - this was way before Windows.

I knew my way around a shell at the time, but the company sent me down to Santa Cruz, CA (near where I live now) to a week long class at Santa Cruz Operation, where I got to hang out at the beach, party with a fellow
othernet sysop going to UC Santa Cruz, and generally enjoy the hell out of
the week. Annoyed the VP of IT when I came back with a tan.


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Weatherman wrote to Atreyu <=-

Powershell commands reminds me of the super old Cobol days. It took a million lines of code to do a simple task, with each variable being rediculously long.

It does not have to.




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Weatherman wrote to Claw <=-

Most people that aren't productive working from home are not productive working in the office, either.

This. We were working from remote. Our "reward" for being so productive working from home full time was to get to continue working from home 2 days
a week. But that is only for employees. Our contract employees still get
to work from home full time.

We have a couple that were not doing anything during the ~2 years we were
at home. They were also the type that burn their leave time as soon as
they earn it so they come in sick, and their distractive behavior tends to
be loud. I would be just as happy if they'd tell them they can still work
from home full-time (since they won't fire them).

The odd thing is that some of the contractors were not doing much, and
still aren't, but they also seem not to want to fire them either.


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I got my start in *nix with a company running IBM S/38 and AS/400
midrange computers. They had reportwriter software that offloaded the reporting to a SCO Xenix box. We used an IBM PS/2 mod 80 with a digiboard and 12 terminals, running 1-2-3 for Xenix. Worked pretty well for a time
- this was way before Windows.

My start was with IBM 3090 mainframes, DEC Vax Systems, and several other mid-range systems. Then went to AS/400, Digital MicroVax, and lots of data communications with all the above. I even set up an early Token-Ring network using the AS/400 as the server with IBM PCs.

After that, it was all Netware, Citrix and Groupwise email systems. Then eventually into firewalls and data networking, and have plenty of knowledge on VMware as well. These days I design, engineer, and lead a team supporting large enterprise networks. Each step of the way has been very fun, and never a dull moment.

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We have a couple that were not doing anything during the ~2 years we were at home. They were also the type that burn their leave time as soon as
they earn it so they come in sick, and their distractive behavior tends
to be loud. I would be just as happy if they'd tell them they can still work from home full-time (since they won't fire them).

Every organization gets stuck with some of those types of people. There is usually a strong correlation between people that burn their vacation time the instant they get it - being the same people that do the very least amount of work to get by. You know, the type of people that would rather walk by a problem vs doing anything to actually fix it.

Since it is typically a challenge to fire people unless, the other way is illiminate their position. That works much better.

- Mark
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Weatherman wrote to Blue White <=-

Every organization gets stuck with some of those types of people.
There is usually a strong correlation between people that burn their vacation time the instant they get it - being the same people that do
the very least amount of work to get by. You know, the type of people that would rather walk by a problem vs doing anything to actually fix
it.

Or tell someone else what they can do to fix it, but specifically not
offering to help. :)

Since it is typically a challenge to fire people unless, the other way
is illiminate their position. That works much better.

In one case, I think they have been working on that for a few years now. I
am betting that I will be gone before that happens. :)


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I absolutely CANNOT STAND IT when a coworker uses colours in Excel. OH GOD this is now driving me absolutely bonkers.

you also hate screenshots.

Maybe you need some medication.
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My start was with IBM 3090 mainframes, DEC Vax Systems, and several other mid-range systems. Then went to AS/400, Digital MicroVax, and lots of data communications with all the above. I even set up an early Token-Ring network using the AS/400 as the server with IBM PCs.

oh man you made my weenie hard when you brought up as400. why do so many people trash talk it? I still have it on my resume and they can't believe it when I say I loved working with it. Less bullshit and it's quicker. I still use JD edwards and SAP but wish I could use as400 instead for some things.
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On 01 Dec 22 00:04:11, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

I absolutely CANNOT STAND IT when a coworker uses colours in Excel. OH GOD this is now driving me absolutely bonkers.

you also hate screenshots.

Lol professor's back!

Never saw a screenshot I liked... except for when you bragged in a Synchronet echo about the uptime of a BBS you reboot nightly. Comedy gold...

Atreyu

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Yup We had training this week on some new systems. Thats a good reason to make us come in. Still sucked.

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