Actually, I'd push back a bit here: I'd offer that Android does
that, perhaps even better than Apple.
TALIADON wrote to tenser <=-
Actually, I'd push back a bit here: I'd offer that Android does
that, perhaps even better than Apple.
Android certainly has Linux roots, and there's no arguing that it's commercially viable, but is it really a complete x11 desktop
environment?
Actually, I'd push back a bit here: I'd offer that Android does
that, perhaps even better than Apple.
Android certainly has Linux roots, and there's no arguing that it's commercially viable, but is it really a complete x11 desktop environment?
Admittedly, I don't really know a thing about Android - I always
preferred the software/hardware synergy of Apple's offerings - so you
may well be right.
On Mon Jul 18 00:00:00 2022, SPECTRE(21:3/101) wrote to bex <=-My old 11 year old laptop I sent to the recycling center in the sky, could not suipport SSD drives. If it was able to handle a SSD drive, it could handle Windows 10 at least. But Windows 10 was so freaing sluggish and I ended up giving up for a Dell Ryzen laptop of 2021 vintage.
I don't have anything that requires anything later, but by the time I finally
dropped XP there were things I needed 7 for. I s'pose I can move along to the
next obsolete OS.... Win 8.. but I'm loathe to have anything to do with 8..
8.. My old 11 year old laptop I sent to the recycling center in the
sky, could not suipport SSD drives. If it was able to handle a SSD
8.. My old 11 year old laptop I sent to the recycling center in
the sky, could not suipport SSD drives. If it was able to handle a
SSD
So I have to ask, seeing as SSD's just look like standard SATA
interfaces why couldn't it handle one? Tres Strange...
Android certainly has Linux roots, and there's no arguing that it's commercially viable, but is it really a complete x11 desktop environment?
Admittedly, I don't really know a thing about Android - I always
preferred the software/hardware synergy of Apple's offerings - so you
may well be right.
I don't know if there's an RDP protocol server for Linux (I think there is), but that would be ideal - use any standard Windows environment to access a desktop environment that fits in your pocket...
So I have to ask, seeing as SSD's just look like standard SATAThe Bios couldnt handle it.
interfaces why
couldn't it handle one? Tres Strange...
Some controller chips just don't like SSD's. I have a LSI controller
here, that can only support hard drives. It see's the SSD is happer to write data to it ect, but after some time it start's generating errors like mad. I've also seen some that will only address a certian max TB
size of drive.
acn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
There is xrdp. I'm running it on a machine here and can connect to it
via RDP, eg. from Guacamole or KRDC (KDE remote desktop client), or
from Windows mstsc.exe
Spectre wrote to vorlon <=-
Sizing makes sense, just like the old 500Mb bios limit.. I'm somewhat surprised at the chipsets not liking them though. Despite the mish
mash of semi antique equipment I have, I've never come across the
problem before.
There is xrdp. I'm running it on a machine here and can connect to it via RDP, eg. from Guacamole or KRDC (KDE remote desktop client), or from Windows mstsc.exe
I'll look into this. I hate VNC, and would love to standardize on one client for Windows and Linux hosts.
Thanks for the pointer.
I'll look into this. I hate VNC, and would love to standardize on one client for Windows and Linux hosts.
Thanks for the pointer.
[...]Some controller chips just don't like SSD's. I have a LSI
controller like mad. I've also seen some that will only address a certian max TB size of drive.
Sizing makes sense, just like the old 500Mb bios limit..
I'm somewhat surprised at the chipsets not liking them though. Despite
the mish mash of semi antique equipment I have, I've never come across
the problem before.
I'll look into this. I hate VNC, and would love to standardize on one client for Windows and Linux hosts.
Thanks for the pointer.
I've run xrdp on both my raspberry pi and a laptop running Ubuntu. I've connected to both via rdp on my win10 desktop and win11 laptop. The
only issue I've run into on Ubuntu is I cannot be logged in when trying
to connect from somewhere else. If I log out and keep Ubuntu running I can get in fine. It's not an issue with my raspberry. I've read it's an Ubuntu issue.
claw wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I know network chuck just did a video on something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvS2M5knOw&list=LL&index=29
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to claw <=-
I know network chuck just did a video on something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvS2M5knOw&list=LL&index=29
Can't trust him. He slurps his coffee.
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to claw <=-
I know network chuck just did a video on something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvS2M5knOw&list=LL&index=29
Can't trust him. He slurps his coffee.
Agreed. I found his mannerisms quite annoying generally. It was like
he was trying too hard to be cute/funny.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-
I know network chuck just did a video on something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvS2M5knOw&list=LL&index=29
Can't trust him. He slurps his coffee.
Agreed. I found his mannerisms quite annoying generally. It was like
he was trying too hard to be cute/funny.
I do appreciate his enthusiasm, he combines entertainment with a
love of what he does, and I've gotten some inspiration for my own
homelab along the way.
Maybe not out of the box, but there are some interesting experiments. I had a rooted android phone, and was able to run a full distro in a chroot'ed jail, using Android's Linux kernel.
Ran VNC server in the Linux instance, and was able to run a full windows environment locally on the phone using an Android VNC client, or run it from my desktop. It was an interesting experiment in taking your environment with you.
I don't know if there's an RDP protocol server for Linux (I think there is), but that would be ideal - use any standard Windows environment to access a desktop environment that fits in your pocket...
Oh no, it's not. But neither is the Mac (at least not without
installing an X11 server, like XQuartz). However, the Android
kernel is Linux, and the user experience and interface are
quite nice. Similarly with ChromeOS: Linux kernel, with a very
different userspace. The critical observation here is that
many use-cases are perfectly adequately served by a web browser.
It's curious how the world keeps reinventing the 3270 and VTAM.
Not by default, but you can get X for Android.
I quite like the idea of having Linux in my pocket, so I may even
splash out on an Android phone and have a play :)
From the other comments posted here, this certainly appears to be the case. What's more, it's far more viable than I'd previously thought.
I quite like the idea of having Linux in my pocket, so I may even splash out on an Android phone and have a play :)
I love android, however if your main goal is to have Linux in the phone just put a bootloader in it and install ARM based Linux on it. If you actually still need it as a phone there are plenty to choose from if you don't need it to be a phone there are tons of distros.
If you don't already have a phone for this and are shopping buy one that is made for and comes with Linux on it.
https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
or
https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
or maybe
https://www.fxtec.com/pro1x
then there is
https://volla.online/en/
not to forget
https://www.fairphone.com/en/
The cool thing is its a phone that works like a computer. You can
install which ever OS you want on these.
Here are some phone based distros.
postmarketOS (Based on Alpine Linux)
UBports (Ubuntu Touch)
Mobian (Debian for mobiles)
Tizen (supported by The Linux Foundation)
KaiOS (based on Firefox OS)
Maemo (Debian)
ExpidusOS (Void Linux)
PureOSPlasma
MobileNemo
MobileNixOS
I'm sure there are tons more. It's been a while since I looked on to replacing boot loaders and the like on these. If you want an Android phone and the easy freedom to do what you want get a OnePlus phone.
They let you root your phone. Its a check box in the settings. they
see it as well you own your phone and as long as you know you won't get support once you mess it up. :D
Hope this helps someone.
Enjoy
I tried to put LineageOS, but found it was more complicated, having to unlock the bootloader and such. I cannot recall whether it turned out
not to be feasible for this phone or not, or whether I decided not to
take the risk.
In the end, I found that the OS preinstalled had a pretty good
ultra-power saving mode that I wasn't sure the other OS's would be able
to duplicate,and I realised that I just wanted a phone, not a computer. Running a full Linux desktop is cool and all, but what I NEED is phone
and message functionality, and if that is compromised, what is the
point? Long battery life and reliable telephony is critical, and all
the other stuff, web browsing, GPG, SSH client, I could already do.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
I remember a couple of Linus Tech Tips/ShortCircuit videos from awhile
ago that showed off some phones that ran Linux out of the box:
Librem 5 Smartphone:
https://youtu.be/BH8DRyKUZDg
Pine64 Pinephone:
https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs
I love android, however if your main goal is to have Linux in the phone just put a bootloader in it and install ARM based Linux on it. If you actually still need it as a phone there are plenty to choose from if you don't need it to be a phone there are tons of distros.
If you don't already have a phone for this and are shopping buy one that is made for and comes with Linux on it.
https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
or
https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
or maybe
https://www.fxtec.com/pro1x
then there is
https://volla.online/en/
not to forget
https://www.fairphone.com/en/
The cool thing is its a phone that works like a computer. You can
install which ever OS you want on these.
Here are some phone based distros.
postmarketOS (Based on Alpine Linux)
UBports (Ubuntu Touch)
Mobian (Debian for mobiles)
Tizen (supported by The Linux Foundation)
KaiOS (based on Firefox OS)
Maemo (Debian)
ExpidusOS (Void Linux)
PureOSPlasma
MobileNemo
MobileNixOS
I'm sure there are tons more. It's been a while since I looked on to replacing boot loaders and the like on these. If you want an Android phone and the easy freedom to do what you want get a OnePlus phone.
They let you root your phone. Its a check box in the settings. they
see it as well you own your phone and as long as you know you won't get support once you mess it up. :D
Hope this helps someone.
This is precisely what I'm looking for - I'm not overly familiar with Android, so I don't want to find myself in the position where I'm wrestling with a system I don't understand.
On 07-26-22 11:42, TALIADON wrote to claw <=-
I'm happy with my iPhone for calls/texting, so it would really be an exercise in getting Linux into my pocket.
Well, that is kind of my point. People who are used to Windows will see an alternative as "deficient", wheras people used to Linux will find Windows deficient. This shows that much of the "deficiencies" that are claimed are really a matter of the alternative not matching their habits.
When I use Windows, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to help me more quickly type out part of a file name in the command line.
When I use Windows, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to help me more quickly type out part of a file name in the command line.
When I use Linux, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to choose among a couple of different file names with similar starts.
Perhaps I just need to be better about naming files to make sure my tab-complete needs line up with my OS.
When I use Windows, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to help me more quickly type out part of a file name in the command line.
When I use Linux, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to choose among a couple of different file names with similar starts.
When I use Windows, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to help me quickly type out part of a file name in the command line.
The Windows command prompt has tab-complete for filenames...?
When I use Windows, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to help me quickly type out part of a file name in the command line.
Doesn't Powershell do this? I'm pretty sure it does.
Perhaps I just need to be better about naming files to make sure my tab-complete needs line up with my OS.Nah, use better software or a better shell. Your computer should work
for you, not you adapt to work to its limitations.
When I use Windows, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to help me mo quickly type out part of a file name in the command line.
When I use Linux, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to choose among couple of different file names with similar starts.
Windows and Linux doe this perfectly. Is your tab key working?
What does _your_ tab key do? And are you using something custom?
Doesn't Powershell do this? I'm pretty sure it does.
I imagine there are always ways. That I am almost certainly not
interested in spending the effort to figure out.
I think I meant that mostly as a joke, as it's silly to name files based on tab-complete needs.
But only _mostly_, because I'd definitely consider it, if I thought that
I had a reasonable naming convention.
Does your tab key do something mine doesn't?
I type part of a file name in Windows, then tab through the options.
I type part of a file name in Linux, then tab to get to the next decision point, then type a bit more, then tab to complete (or get to the next decision point, or tab-complete with the previous one).
If I type enough of the file name that the names are unique on either system, the behavior would be exactly the same.
What does _your_ tab key do? And are you using something custom?
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
Does your tab key do something mine doesn't?
I type part of a file name in Windows, then tab through the options.
I type part of a file name in Linux, then tab to get to the next decision point, then type a bit more, then tab to complete (or
get to the next decision point, or tab-complete with the previous one).
If I type enough of the file name that the names are unique on either system, the behavior would be exactly the same.
Do you double tab? For me, at the decision point, double tab will list
all the available files that meet what you have typed so far and that it cannot proceed to complete because there is no longer uniqueness in your input.
When I use Linux, I'm annoyed that I can't tab-complete to choose among a couple of different file names with similar starts.
ZSH can do this. ZSH can do a lot.
ZSH can do this. ZSH can do a lot.
Why yes, yes it does! :) It was really hard for me to move away from bash, but I'm a complete zsh devotee now. It's conveniences are truly labor saving.
bex wrote to boraxman <=-
Why yes, yes it does! :) It was really hard for me to move away from bash, but I'm a complete zsh devotee now. It's conveniences are truly labor saving.
Could you elaborate? I'm getting into working with shells more, haven't looked at a shell other than Bash since the csh/bash wars of the late '80s.
I found a lot of things that I did with ZSH, BASH could do. I don't
know if I wrongfully thought they were ZSH only features, or if BASH had changed since I converted to ZSH, but I read through some BASH documentation and was thinking "I thought this was specific to ZSH..."
I add an "archived" extended attribute to any files I've put on my
archive drive, but still want to keep around, and I can list those files with ls *(+archived) or delete them with
In the end, all of the shells can do most of the same things, it's just a matter of how easy it is to do those things. zsh makes things like
working with history and searching easy-peasy. And oh-my-zsh plugins
make adding environment variables and variables a piece of cake.
I add an "archived" extended attribute to any files I've put on my archive drive, but still want to keep around, and I can list those fil with ls *(+archived) or delete them with
That is friggin BRILLIANT! I am going to implement that on my test system!
Have a place for everything and keep the thing somewhere else; this is
not advice, it is merely custom.
- Mark Twain
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
bex wrote to boraxman <=-
Why yes, yes it does! :) It was really hard for me to move away from bash, but I'm a complete zsh devotee now. It's conveniences are truly labor saving.
Could you elaborate? I'm getting into working with shells more, haven't looked at a shell other than Bash since the csh/bash wars of the late '80s.
Last one for now: zsh plugins. My favorite example is a silly little history plugin. The plugin creates a few different aliases which get processed when .zshrc is sourced, including "hsi" to do a
case-insensitve grep on history. It's something that I can easily replicate in bash, of course. I just think that it's cool to have it separated out into its own container. If I don't want to have those aliases anymore, in bash I have to go through my aliases file, finding
and deleting each one. In zsh, I just remove the plugin.
Silly stuff, but the expansion of tab completion and auto-complete history has sped up my productivity by a good 5%. Over an 8 hour day, I dig having time for another coffee break. :D
boraxman said to bex: <=-
The magic happens with this ZSH function. Note that you need to add zmodload zsh/attr
to your .zshrc as well to add support for extended attributes.
http://zzapper.co.uk/zshtips.html
Lots of good tips here. Will give you an indication of what you can do.
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