Hello all,
And I do hope this is correct place for such a question?
I am after some advise / guidance / suggestions for the best BBS option to run on an Amiga and / or for Amiga Based clients.
Intangybles wrote to All <=-
I am after some advise / guidance / suggestions for the best BBS option
to run on an Amiga and / or for Amiga Based clients.
Hello all,
And I do hope this is correct place for such a question?
I am after some advise / guidance / suggestions for the best BBS option
to run on an Amiga and / or for Amiga Based clients.
While loving "Mystic" and we shall be keeping this system regardless we have had great issue with client compatibility when connecting from
Amiga based clients.
Seeing that our club / group is predominantly Amiga based I have been asked the question about our Amiga BBS options.
I never ran a BBS on an Amiga - evn=en though it was always my system of
While loving "Mystic" and we shall be keeping this system regardless
we have had great issue with client compatibility when connecting from Amiga based clients.
I never tried it, but there is https://github.com/dmcoles/AmiExpress
"Welcome to the AmiExpress repository. AmiExpress was a BBS System that
If you don't receive (m)any answers here, you might also try the FSX
Retro message area, or ask around on Fido. There are some folks still running BBSes on Amigas, real or virtual.
There are a few Amiga BBS' available, AmiXpress, Excelsior!, and CNet. AmiXpress and CNet are being updated. E! is not, and has issues with
Y2K. I personally run a CNet have been since 2018, runs very well with
The best Amiga telnet client is DCTelnet (On aminet).
Two that are still developed are: CNet, and AmiX (as has been posted by another).
It was what I was running before converting to Mystic and bringing
across the look from Zeus to the mystic system.
If you want to have a look: dragon.vk3heg.net port 6800
Intangybles wrote to Blue White <=-
On 05 Jan 2022, Blue White said the following...
If you don't receive (m)any answers here, you might also try the FSX
Retro message area, or ask around on Fido. There are some folks still running BBSes on Amigas, real or virtual.
Thanks yes was thinking about FSXRetro, but thought I would ask here first!
Really must get us connected to Fido as well!
Thanks for the reply! I have joined the CNet BBS and am awaiting a reply.
On the Mystic front - what platform do you run it on? and do you have issues with connected Amiga users?
Mark.
If you do Facebook, there is a sysop, Gary McCulloch, who has a group called the Reign of Fire BBS Group. I think all of his systems run on Commodore systems, and I am pretty sure that one is on an Amiga.
The best Amiga telnet client is DCTelnet (On aminet).
Thanks for that yes, the users I have currently connect from Amiga are using that but still report "font' loading issues of some kind! Sadly
I still don't have an Amiga of my own net setup yet to test it myself
- must do this too!
Yes I am looking into those as well - my wish is whatever I run to get
it running "headless" on a virtual server - "Mystic" is running well
on my web hosting server under a user account so far!
Yes I am looking into those as well - my wish is whatever I run to ge it running "headless" on a virtual server - "Mystic" is running well on my web hosting server under a user account so far!
There you will run into into issues. I've tried a number of times to do remote headless on Amiga systems and the
mouse movement has always been a very frustrating time.
On 05 Jan 2022, Oli said the following...
I never tried it, but there is https://github.com/dmcoles/AmiExpress
"Welcome to the AmiExpress repository. AmiExpress was a BBS System
that
Thanks for that Oli! I was not aware of that one!
Will look into it!
on my web hosting server under a user account so far!
There you will run into into issues. I've tried a number of times
to do remote headless on Amiga systems and the mouse movement has
always been a very frustrating time.
I agree with Vorlon, another way to look at what you are trying to do here, is running a Emulator inside a Virtual Machine which is
basically and emulator.. WinUAE has a switch for the mouse but to be honest, it is just not worth the aggravation of trying to get the
mouse to work perfect. I run my CNet Amiga on a dedicated machine, I picked it up for $30 on eBay as a lease turn in. You can get away with
an Pentium 4 if needed, mine is an i3 with 4 gigs of ram 240 meg SSD..
I run WinUAE in Windows 10, and emulate a A4000 with maxed out
peripherals (Memory, video etc.) It's super fast and runs real well.
You might want to look at doing it that way, you can use the
machine headless if you want, I dial into mine via RealVNC and have NO issues at all. RDP is another story, when you exit RDP it will reset WinUAE thus killing the BBS.. Hope that helps a little..
on my web hosting server under a user account so far!
There you will run into into issues. I've tried a number of times
to do remote headless on Amiga systems and the mouse movement has
always been a very frustrating time.
Yeah. I just wish there was a *working* vnc etc, server for the Amiga. There are clients, but I don't want a client on the Amiga. I want to control the Amiga from another machine. I have used KVM's before, but the Amiga keyboard isn't like a PC keyboard, so the only thing that gets switched is the Display.
Hello Bucko!
Speaking of Winuae and BBS's. How does the networking to the BBS work? I use/used a real TCP/IP stack on the Amiga (Easynet [Amitcp],
Miami, Genesis. Do they work under the *uae's or is it just the
bsd.socket option used? How does the server side get it's ip address,
and accept connections etc?
There you will run into into issues. I've tried a number of
times to do remote headless on Amiga systems and the mouse
movement has always been a very frustrating time.
I guess this is normal, if there is no dedicated support for the
handling of the mouse cursor. In a proper VNC setup you would see a
local mouse cursor and the remote one is hidden.
How remote is remote in your case? Samebuilding remote or in the cloud remote? Real Amiga or emulated? If it is a real Amiga, how fast is the network connection?
I want to control the Amiga from another machine. I have used
KVM's before, but the Amiga keyboard isn't like a PC keyboard, so
the only thing that gets switched is the Display.
There are PS/2 to Amiga keyboard adapters.
Another solution could be the PiStorm, which has keyboard and mouse "passthrough".
https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/pistorm-keeping-the-amiga-alive/ https://github.com/captain-amygdala/pistorm/wiki/FAQs
(I don't own an Amiga, so I haven't tested any of this, just thinking
out loud).
Speaking of Winuae and BBS's. How does the networking to the BBS
work? I use/used a real TCP/IP stack on the Amiga (Easynet
[Amitcp], Miami, Genesis. Do they work under the *uae's or is it
just the bsd.socket option used? How does the server side get
it's ip address, and accept connections etc?
They all work fine, there are some using Miami and some using Genesis,
I took the easy way out with my BBS and am using AmiTCP with TelnetD
using the bsd.socket of WinUAE.. As for connetions, TelnetD handles it all, it answers sets up the port that is accepting calls and answers
like a modem would.. HOpe that helps a bit...
Hello Bucko!
Does Binkd work under the emulation? I've tried it under my Amilithon setup with Genesis/Miami and it don't like
something (It reports a host function can't be found)... So I'm looking
at other options (See my message to Oli).
Intangybles wrote to Blue White <=-If you do Facebook, there is a sysop, Gary McCulloch, who has a group called the Reign of Fire BBS Group. I think all of his systems run on Commodore systems, and I am pretty sure that one is on an Amiga.
You can reach his BBS at rof.cnetbbs.net on port 2300.
On 06 Jan 2022, Intangybles said the following...
On the Mystic front - what platform do you run it on? and do you have issues with connected Amiga users?I run my Mystic in a Windows 10 Virtual Machine.. No issues at all with Amiga users, JR Comm, Terminus, (both of which I used to use when I
owned an Amiga) work fine with it as I have used them to connect. Any
term program that supports ANSI will work fine. So no issues.. :)
On 06 Jan 2022, Blue White said the following...
You're right. All C-Net. Some on real hardware and some in emulation.
Not sure which.
06 Jan 22 17:05, you wrote to me:
Both of my systems look the same in both netrunner on linux, andThe best Amiga telnet client is DCTelnet (On aminet).
dctelnet.
There you will run into into issues. I've tried a number of times to do remote headless on Amiga systems and the
mouse movement has always been a very frustrating time.
On 08 Jan 2022, Vorlon said the following...
I agree with Vorlon, another way to look at what you are trying to do here, is running a Emulator inside a Virtual Machine which is basically and emulator.. WinUAE has a switch for the mouse but to be honest, it is just not worth the aggravation of trying to get the mouse to work
perfect. I run my CNet Amiga on a dedicated machine, I picked it up for $30 on eBay as a lease turn in. You can get away with an Pentium 4 if needed, mine is an i3 with 4 gigs of ram 240 meg SSD.. I run WinUAE in Windows 10, and emulate a A4000 with maxed out peripherals (Memory,
video etc.) It's super fast and runs real well. You might want to look
at doing it that way, you can use the machine headless if you want, I
dial into mine via RealVNC and have NO issues at all. RDP is another story, when you exit RDP it will reset WinUAE thus killing the BBS..
Hope that helps a little..
Intangybles wrote (2022-01-06):
There is also NiKom. Last version 2.6 is from 2021:
https://www.nikom.org/
On 26 Jan 2022, Vorlon said the following...
Hello Bucko!
Speaking of Winuae and BBS's. How does the networking to the BBS work use/used a real TCP/IP stack on the Amiga (Easynet [Amitcp],
They all work fine, there are some using Miami and some using Genesis, I took the easy way out with my BBS and am using AmiTCP with TelnetD using the bsd.socket of WinUAE.. As for connetions, TelnetD handles it all, it answers sets up the port that is accepting calls and answers like a
modem would.. HOpe that helps a bit...
On 06 Jan 2022, Bucko said the following...
Thanks again, we have been having issues related to ANSI detection with DOOR games in the main - well the portal type mainly - BBSlink etc my local doors work fine in the main - even running under DOSEMU on my
Linux hosting server.
On 07 Feb 2022, Intangybles said the following...
On 06 Jan 2022, Bucko said the following...
Thanks again, we have been having issues related to ANSI detection wi DOOR games in the main - well the portal type mainly - BBSlink etc my local doors work fine in the main - even running under DOSEMU on my Linux hosting server.
Only thing I could attribute that to would possibly be the term program not being fully ANSI compliant or IBM ANSI compliant. When I get my Greaseweasel working again I will make an ADF of my Terminus disk and
see if I can reproduce the problem you are having...
Thanks so much for the input again! Yes a dedicated machine would always be my first choice! I don't need to locate any - must have at least 4 I could use on my office floor ;-) If was to go this way I'd been keep to try it out on Amithlon as I have a spare old IBM that runs it perfectly! Sadly i'm not in a position to run real hardware continually connected
to the Internet anytime in the near future. So.. Cloud based Amiga
project it is! Wish my luck! ;-)
Thanks very much for that! I will sift out the user comments from the discord thread and see If I can send you a link to, the main user
effected has sent through some good screen shorts of what its doing to him! Its almost like he sees the underlying (portal BBS) and not the
door game he is playing. The other font issue we where having seems to
be fine now after the users reinstalled DCTelnet.
Sysop: | Gary Ailes |
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Location: | Pittsburgh, PA |
Users: | 132 |
Nodes: | 5 (0 / 5) |
Uptime: | 197:21:04 |
Calls: | 733 |
Files: | 2,171 |
Messages: | 81,894 |