On 22 Dec 2021 at 08:36a, Gdclark pondered and said...

I have emailed it. It's coming from my instance of Synchronet, which I only recently installed. I have no experience with Synchronet and my
last BBS activity was ~25 years ago so there's plenty of opportunity for something to have gone wrong. If you don't receive it, please let me
know and I'll do what it takes to get it to you.

Got it, and thanks :)

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Gdclark wrote (2021-12-22):

Re: Waffle
By: Oli to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 2021 10:45 am

Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64).
I've not been able to compile it, the code is very old (14 Apr
1992) and needs migrating to a modern Unix.

Cool! I'm also interested ...

Since there may be a general interest, I have shared the file at

Got it.

I have not been able to get it to compile (not that I've spent much time
on it) and I suspect it will take some effort.

I haven't tried. Unfortunately I don't know C that well, especially not the things that changed over all the decades.

My plan has been to start
with a BSD from back then because I think it will compile there.

Linux wasn't very common 30 years ago, was it? ;)

Then I
would step-wise port it to more and more modern BSDs until it has caught
up to today. At that point, it might not be hard to port it to Linux (assuming that's where most people are who would be interested).

On the other hand, it might be easiest to port to an old version of Linux and then move forward in time from there.

I think if you get it compile with a recent BSD it shouldn't be too hard to port it to Linux.

I wonder if anyone has experience with compiling C(++) code with Zig.

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On 04 Jan 2022, Oli said the following...

Linux wasn't very common 30 years ago, was it? ;)

Not common, but I started with it before then and had a number of systems running Slackware by 1991 (so 31 years ago). We did have to make and compile our custom kernels and the whole OS back then. That started to go out with
2.0 and mod's and by 2.5 or so you didn't need to compile a custom kernel each time. I stopped doing so some time in the early 2000's. There are likely plenty of old versions on servers around the world you could start the project of upgrading to a modern Linux on. You might be able to go in 5 year jumps (the project of upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle
back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

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On 16 Feb 2022 at 08:30a, bcw142 pondered and said...

You might be able to go in 5 year jumps (the project of upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

Yeah we're old buggers eh? ;-)

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upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

I remember running Waffle for a short time a long time ago.

I remember harrassing a bad user by setting something in his profile to "weasel" (I think). It made everything he typed/saw CoMe OuT LiKe ThIs.


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bcw142 wrote (2022-02-16):

On 04 Jan 2022, Oli said the following...

Linux wasn't very common 30 years ago, was it? ;)

Not common, but I started with it before then and had a number of systems running Slackware by 1991 (so 31 years ago). We did have to make and compile our custom kernels and the whole OS back then. That started to go out with 2.0 and mod's and by 2.5 or so you didn't need to compile a
custom kernel each time. I stopped doing so some time in the early
2000's. There are likely plenty of old versions on servers around the
world you could start the project of upgrading to a modern Linux on. You might be able to go in 5 year jumps (the project of upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

I really don't have much experience with C, how it evolved over the years and cross-platform development. But I wonder if it might be more work to port Waffle to several older versions instead of jumping directly to proper ANSI C99 (or whatever works best).

Or start to get in running on a recent BSD first and then port to Linux.

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On 18 Feb 2022 at 08:58a, Oli pondered and said...

I really don't have much experience with C, how it evolved over the
years and cross-platform development. But I wonder if it might be more work to port Waffle to several older versions instead of jumping
directly to proper ANSI C99 (or whatever works best).

I got Waffle compiling and linking on a modern Unix with
a recent Clang not too long ago.

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On 19 Feb 2022, tenser said the following...

I got Waffle compiling and linking on a modern Unix with
a recent Clang not too long ago.

do you have the .zip?

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On 18 Feb 2022 at 06:41p, fang-castro pondered and said...

do you have the .zip?

Nah; I threw it in a git repo. But without whats-his-name's
blessing, I'm not so sure about passing it around. :-(

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tenser wrote (2022-02-20):

On 18 Feb 2022 at 06:41p, fang-castro pondered and said...

do you have the .zip?

Nah; I threw it in a git repo. But without whats-his-name's
blessing, I'm not so sure about passing it around. :-(

Just upload it to archive.org, they don't care about blessings (, copyright and privacy laws) ;-P

I don't know which version you have. Is it maybe possible to create a patch and only distribute the diff?

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On 20 Feb 2022 at 12:52p, Oli pondered and said...

Just upload it to archive.org, they don't care about blessings (, copyright and privacy laws) ;-P

I'm actually surprised it's not already there?

I don't know which version you have. Is it maybe possible to create a patch and only distribute the diff?

I kind of tend to doubt it; I imagine the patch would
fall under whatever license waffle itself falls under.

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