• Re: BOOTSTRA.386

    From bcw142@21:1/145 to paulie420 on Tuesday, May 18, 2021 17:50:49
    Mystic hosts via HTML 1.0 which is the basic original standard. All my bcw142.zapto.org sites are hosted by it. Not sure if BOOTSTRA.386 will
    run with it, but I suspect it's more a matter of the browser being used
    to view it than the server.
    It will work fine with fTelnet, you'll see I use it on the bcw142.zapto.org page to get to Mystic Pi BBS and AlphaTest BBS.
    In config under Servers, Configure Servers the standard setup is:
    Yes HTTP HTTP 80 Yes Yes
    Hit enter on that line and you'll get something like:
    Active Yes
    ID HTTP
    Adapter Type IPV4+IPV6
    IPV4 Adapter 0.0.0.0
    IPV6 Adapter ::
    Port 80
    Max Allowed 20
    Auto IP Ban 0 in 0 Secs
    Country Blocked No
    Send Blocked No
    Dupe IP Limit 0
    SSL Port 0
    Root Path /mystic/web
    That is my setup at present, so no SSL, no Dupe Limit, No blocking and such.
    I use a different path of /mystic/web/www rather than the default as that's
    what I really started off with before Mystic did web, I used nweb a small
    simple server much like what Mystic does.
    Port is the most important to know as it's how it's seen (what address)
    http://bcw142.zapto.org:80 is the above web site
    http://bcw142.zapto.org:2380 is my AlphaTest page (so Port 2380)

    Hmm, my cursor has disappeared! Oh, well ;)

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to paulie420 on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:26:00
    Am 11.05.21 schrieb paulie420@21:2/150 in FSX_BBS:

    Hallo paulie420,

    Wow, thanks for this tip, I've just looked at it and it is *very* nice :) ac>> I'm thinking about redesigning my personal website using this design *g*

    I'm a newb and need to learn about... hosting/serving a website first. :P

    ;-)
    Using Synchronet, you'd already have a Webserver at least :)

    But, I also love this instead of the regular Bootsrap.

    Yep. At the moment, my private website (acn.wtf) uses a hand-crafted
    HTML/CSS design, but recently I've looked into Bootstrap (and jQuery) and it's not that bad as I thought :)

    Checkout a new ascii art site that ... knocked it out of the park and modified Bootsra.386: asciiarena.se

    Wow, nice :)

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to acn on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 05:39:10
    ;-)
    Using Synchronet, you'd already have a Webserver at least :)

    I know Mystic askes for HTML server info, but don't know if it hosts anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML bits... :P That prolly wouldn't work as I think. :P

    But, I also love this instead of the regular Bootsrap.
    Yep. At the moment, my private website (acn.wtf) uses a hand-crafted HTML/CSS design, but recently I've looked into Bootstrap (and jQuery)
    and it's not that bad as I thought :)

    I really want to use it; from my www site, I just want a cool splash page or 3 about my BBS, and other links/things that connect with it... and I want to have an fTelnet window for users to connect to 2o. All simple things... if I could ever get my message areas on there that would be over the top - yes, I know eChicken has that for Sync... :P



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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to paulie420 on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 22:04:28
    I know Mystic askes for HTML server info, but don't know if it hosts
    That prolly wouldn't work as I think. :P
    anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML bits... :P

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to Paulie420 on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 15:18:12
    I know Mystic askes for HTML server info, but don't know if it
    hosts
    That prolly wouldn't work as I think. :P
    anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML
    bits... :P

    Apologies for the garbage reply. Was on my "other" BBS and the editor just flipped out and I hastly tried to abort, ended saving instead :(

    Was GOING to say, yeah -- having syncrhonet's web front end handle
    web-based echomail browsing is SUPER handy. I run SBBS as my personal
    hub, so it makes it easy. Might deep link into this for my main BBS site.

    Happy to lend any advice in terms of scaffolding web sites - including
    the html/css Bootstrap themes. No way I'm an expert, but been doing
    front-end for a long time...

    I tend to roll with React-based things these days, which is probably
    overkill, but easy to add an Express server for heavy
    (server-side, database, etc.) lifting.

    Guns to knife fights, I know. Totally impractical. Maybe I'll just stick
    to HTML/CSS this time as well :)


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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to bcw142 on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 09:48:47
    bcw142 wrote (2021-05-18):

    Mystic hosts via HTML 1.0 which is the basic original standard.

    Something went wrong:

    <HTML>
    <A HREF=http://bbs.guide/>BBS Guide</A> |
    <head>
    <TITLE>bcw142.zapto.org</TITLE>
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html lnag="en">
    <meta charset="utf-8"/>
    <!-- Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 -->
    </head>
    <BODY BGCOLOR="lightblue">

    :2380 looks better, but still some errors, like:

    <h3><a href="http://bcw142.zapto.org:2480/">Mystic Beta BBS</h3></a>

    Open the source in Firefox, it does a pretty good job highlighting the errors.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 21:06:10
    anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML
    bits... :P

    Was GOING to say, yeah -- having syncrhonet's web front end handle web-based echomail browsing is SUPER handy. I run SBBS as my personal
    hub, so it makes it easy. Might deep link into this for my main BBS site.


    Awesome; thanks for offering to help - you know I might bug you about it... I'm just up the road with my kids, we can eat at that Philly Cheestake place. You know the one.


    :P



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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to paulie420 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:22:00
    Am 12.05.21 schrieb paulie420@21:2/150 in FSX_BBS:

    Hallo paulie420,

    ;-)
    Using Synchronet, you'd already have a Webserver at least :)

    I know Mystic askes for HTML server info, but don't know if it hosts anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML bits... :P That prolly wouldn't work as I think. :P

    That would be a little much just for a webserver, yes :)

    I really want to use it; from my www site, I just want a cool splash page
    or 3 about my BBS, and other links/things that connect with it... and I
    want to have an fTelnet window for users to connect to 2o. All simple things... if I could ever get my message areas on there that would be over the top - yes, I know eChicken has that for Sync... :P

    Yes, all that is included in webv4 on SBBS...
    That has been one of the reasons why I quickly switched to SBBS after
    trying Mystic (and the open source part).

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to paulie420 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:25:00
    Am 12.05.21 schrieb paulie420@21:2/150 in FSX_BBS:

    Hi,

    Just a small question: I did not get Alpha's message here in my BBS, only paulie420's answer.
    Are some messages stuck somewhere?

    Thanks!
    Anna


    anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML
    bits... :P

    Was GOING to say, yeah -- having syncrhonet's web front end handle
    web-based echomail browsing is SUPER handy. I run SBBS as my personal
    hub, so it makes it easy. Might deep link into this for my main BBS site. Al>>

    Awesome; thanks for offering to help - you know I might bug you about it... I'm just up the road with my kids, we can eat at that Philly Cheestake place. You know the one.


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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to acn on Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:38:00
    Am 13.05.21 schrieb acn@21:3/127.1 in FSX_BBS:

    Hallo acn,

    Just a small question: I did not get Alpha's message here in my BBS, only paulie420's answer.
    Are some messages stuck somewhere?

    To answer that to myself:
    The mail I missed came with the next package.
    Everything okay, just the order of messages was weird.

    Anna

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to paulie420 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 07:09:14
    Awesome; thanks for offering to help - you know I might bug you about
    it... I'm just up the road with my kids, we can eat at that Philly
    Cheestake place. You know the one.

    Wait, you're in the SF Bay Area?? I don't think I've ever eaten a
    cheese steak in my entire time here :)



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    * Origin: The Drunken Gamer BBS (21:4/158.1)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Alpha on Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:44:03
    Alpha wrote to Paulie420 <=-

    I tend to roll with React-based things these days, which is probably overkill, but easy to add an Express server for heavy
    (server-side, database, etc.) lifting.

    React as in React-OS?


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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to Blue White on Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:05:14
    React as in React-OS?

    No, React as in javascript framework for building web front-ends.

    But thanks for pointing me at React-OS, which looks like an open souce OS
    to run Windows programs!! Interesting.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Thursday, May 13, 2021 09:33:11
    Awesome; thanks for offering to help - you know I might bug you about it... I'm just up the road with my kids, we can eat at that Philly Cheestake place. You know the one.

    Wait, you're in the SF Bay Area?? I don't think I've ever eaten a
    cheese steak in my entire time here :)

    I used to eat this killer cheesesteak place in Berkeley, right off the... not the drag, but the big road that you take from the hwy to get to the drag...

    I thought it was like some local 'thing'. They carried these stupid Butternut Biscuit cakes that my Dad used to get when I was a kid, so that was like a bonus point... even tho they were just extra little crappers.

    Man, I wish I knew the name of that place. :P



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Blue White on Thursday, May 13, 2021 09:34:34
    React as in React-OS?

    LOL, no one can use that project for damned near anything. :P

    I wish it was a viable option, too; as I'd use ReactOS... as of right now, IMO, its a 20 year demo... sounds great, looks like Windows 2000 but doesn't work at all.



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  • From Sparky@21:1/192 to paulie420 on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 16:39:07
    I know Mystic askes for HTML server info, but don't know if it hosts anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML bits... :P That prolly wouldn't work as I think. :P

    I am using Mystics web server. I only have HTML and CSS but it does a decent job. http://commconnbbs.net
    Jeff

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    * Origin: commconnbbs.net (21:1/192)
  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Blue White on Friday, May 14, 2021 18:28:38
    Blue wrote (2021-05-13):

    Alpha wrote to Paulie420 <=-

    I tend to roll with React-based things these days, which is probably
    overkill, but easy to add an Express server for heavy
    (server-side, database, etc.) lifting.

    React as in React-OS?

    No, react as in stupid javascript stuff by facebook that brings your old PC to a crawl by wasting energy and eating up huge amounts of RAM.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Sparky on Friday, May 14, 2021 12:09:47
    I know Mystic askes for HTML server info, but don't know if it hosts anything for you. Heck I could spin up Sync just for the HTML bits... That prolly wouldn't work as I think. :P

    I am using Mystics web server. I only have HTML and CSS but it does a decent job. http://commconnbbs.net
    Jeff


    Thanks for the link, Sparky - I wasn't aware that Mystic could host my www site. Thats exactly what I want to do; wonder if I could use this BOOTSTRA.386 there - I just want a landing page or two and fTelnet.



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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Oli on Saturday, May 15, 2021 03:48:50

    Blue wrote (2021-05-13):

    No, react as in stupid javascript stuff by facebook that brings your old PC to a crawl by wasting energy and eating up huge amounts of RAM.

    Sadly you are not wrong


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Alpha on Saturday, May 15, 2021 09:57:12
    Alpha wrote to Blue White <=-

    React as in React-OS?

    No, React as in javascript framework for building web front-ends.

    But thanks for pointing me at React-OS, which looks like an open souce
    OS to run Windows programs!! Interesting.

    Last I checked, it was not near current to the most-recent Windows version,
    but it is interesting for those that might want an environment to run older Windows programs but which is still being updated.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Oli on Saturday, May 15, 2021 09:58:12
    Oli wrote to Blue White <=-

    React as in React-OS?

    No, react as in stupid javascript stuff by facebook that brings your
    old PC to a crawl by wasting energy and eating up huge amounts of RAM.

    Lol, no thanks. :)


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to bcw142 on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 15:24:35
    Mystic hosts via HTML 1.0 which is the basic original standard. All my bcw142.zapto.org sites are hosted by it.

    Thanks a ton for all this info. Problem is, for me, that I don't understand WEB stuff a lot... but your explanation made it easy to digest and I get it. :P Then I just put my www stuff in ~/mystic/web ...

    I think I'll be able to whip some stuff up. Thanks a lot.



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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to paulie420 on Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:53:56
    On 19 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    Thanks a ton for all this info. Problem is, for me, that I don't understand WEB
    stuff a lot... but your explanation made it easy to digest and I get it. :P Then I just put my www stuff in ~/mystic/web ...
    I think I'll be able to whip some stuff up. Thanks a lot.

    If that's ~/mystic/web/www that has *.html files it will work. There should also be a ~/mystic/web/cfg in that case. Some day g00r00 will add stuff so
    we can do full i/o instead of just o ;) It's save and secure with just output and no imput, but it's not a full BBS web setup that way. Still it's a good
    way to get names and addresses and terminal programs out there to connect with. It lets people download them and get started.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to bcw142 on Thursday, May 20, 2021 09:37:13
    If that's ~/mystic/web/www that has *.html files it will work. There should also be a ~/mystic/web/cfg in that case. Some day g00r00 will add stuff so we can do full i/o instead of just o ;) It's save and secure
    with just output and no imput, but it's not a full BBS web setup that
    way. Still it's a good way to get names and addresses and terminal programs out there to connect with. It lets people download them and get started.

    Very good - but it will run an fTelnet instance too...? Sounds perfect for my needs; sure I'd love to be about to host messages there, but don't need so. My BBS is super ANSI heavy; so a place to explain exactly how to make 2o looks right is all I'm going for. And, an fTelnet window for the newest of users... I'm gonna dig around and try to make something.

    Thanks for all the posters that posted details.



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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Thursday, May 20, 2021 19:26:46

    On 20 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    If that's ~/mystic/web/www that has *.html files it will work. There

    Very good - but it will run an fTelnet instance too...? Sounds perfect
    for my needs; sure I'd love to be about to host messages there, but

    It will... I had my webpage originally on Mystic in the web directory.. It worked great.. I eventually moved it to Appache and finally to my NAS, but it ran well with Mystic.. g00r00 says it is a basic web page server, it is but
    it can do anything you want it to if you need to...

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Thursday, May 20, 2021 18:08:45
    Very good - but it will run an fTelnet instance too...? Sounds perfec for my needs; sure I'd love to be about to host messages there, but

    It will... I had my webpage originally on Mystic in the web directory..
    It worked great.. I eventually moved it to Appache and finally to my
    NAS, but it ran well with Mystic.. g00r00 says it is a basic web page server, it is but it can do anything you want it to if you need to...

    Thanks for the reply - also, I'm not opposed to running my own web server but... I'm just fairly amateur at ALL web hosting.

    It amazes me everything that I can do with Raspberry Pi's. :P I think I'm gonna try to run a www - first using Mystic and I'll goto another server if needed. Fun fun fun till daddy takes the retro away. :P



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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to paulie420 on Friday, May 21, 2021 06:44:36
    *** Quoting paulie420 from a message to Bucko ***

    Thanks for the reply - also, I'm not opposed to running my own web
    server but... I'm just fairly amateur at ALL web hosting.

    It amazes me everything that I can do with Raspberry Pi's. :P I think
    I'm gonna try to run a www - first using Mystic and I'll goto another server if needed.

    Web servers in general can be a fun rabbit hole to fall down. One minute you're installing Apache and/or nginx & playing around with basic HTML the next minute you're pulling your hair our trying to figure out SSL/TLS certificates and then suddenly you find yourself spending $20 for a PHP
    course on Udemy.


    Jay

    ... Never let your feet run faster than your shoes

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Warpslide on Friday, May 21, 2021 06:42:00
    Warpslide wrote to paulie420 <=-

    Web servers in general can be a fun rabbit hole to fall down. One
    minute you're installing Apache and/or nginx & playing around with
    basic HTML the next minute you're pulling your hair our trying to
    figure out SSL/TLS certificates and then suddenly you find yourself spending $20 for a PHP course on Udemy.

    The trick is to get someone to pay for the trip down the rabbit hole. I'm an old-school apache guy, but had the opportunity to learn nginx and certs at work.


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Warpslide on Friday, May 21, 2021 09:07:05
    Web servers in general can be a fun rabbit hole to fall down. One
    minute you're installing Apache and/or nginx & playing around with basic HTML the next minute you're pulling your hair our trying to figure out SSL/TLS certificates and then suddenly you find yourself spending $20
    for a PHP course on Udemy.

    Wait; I've done all those things. :P



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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to paulie420 on Saturday, May 22, 2021 15:39:31
    On 20 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    It will... I had my webpage originally on Mystic in the web directory It worked great.. I eventually moved it to Appache and finally to my NAS, but it ran well with Mystic.. g00r00 says it is a basic web page server, it is but it can do anything you want it to if you need to...

    Basically the case because he enabled python as well as MPL. Python being more of a web language than MPL it allows for extending the web server it has in python as MIRC did. So in truth the cfg isn't really needed, just the www
    and python. I hadn't thought about it before, but MIRC shows a way python can become the input engine for Mystic's web server, bypassing any need for cfg
    to enable input or other services.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)