N1uro wrote to Avon <=-

USENET/NNTP was originally developed by WB6CYT who became SK last autum
as a method for ham radio NOS BBS systems to exchange public mail
between them. It caught on with the general internet community and next thing you know USENET was created.

I did not know that! I figured some academics came up with it.


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Hello BW;

Blue White wrote to N1uro <=-

I did not know that! I figured some academics came up with it.

We all know Phil Karn came up with the original NOS. He and Brian Kantor
were very close friends (as I was with BK). When Phil wrote the original
TCP/IP stack for the PC (aka: NOS) and put ax.25 in it, BK came up with the idea of sharing mail messages between sites and that's how NNTP came to be.
BK was also the lead in the original SMTP RFC and invented ipencapsulation which is half of what we use today as VPNs.

Hams are all over pieces of the internet puzzle as far as it's creations
and designs are concerned. I've been fortunate to work on some of the KA9Q
code as a few others picked up on it when Phil Karn released it into the general public. K2MF's MFNOS was one I put a lot of time into with K2MF
moreso in the latter versions. K2MF was an engineer for CBS/Sony in NYC.
JNOS2 is probably the only active NOS being maintained and I supply code
for that once in a while. You'll see KA9Q all over the tcp/ip stack code
in linux/bsd/windows/mac/etc.

K2MF wished me to fully take over his DOS based MFNOS (I still distribute
it) but I moved onto using linux and the native linux stack with my own creations.

Glad you liked the post. Knowledge only has value when it's shared.

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On 05-16-21 08:22, Blue White wrote to N1uro <=-

N1uro wrote to Avon <=-

USENET/NNTP was originally developed by WB6CYT who became SK last autum
as a method for ham radio NOS BBS systems to exchange public mail
between them. It caught on with the general internet community and next thing you know USENET was created.

I did not know that! I figured some academics came up with it.

Yeah, neither did I!


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On 05-16-21 20:51, N1uro wrote to Blue White <=-

We all know Phil Karn came up with the original NOS. He and Brian
Kantor were very close friends (as I was with BK). When Phil wrote the original TCP/IP stack for the PC (aka: NOS) and put ax.25 in it, BK
came up with the idea of sharing mail messages between sites and that's how NNTP came to be. BK was also the lead in the original SMTP RFC and invented ipencapsulation which is half of what we use today as VPNs.

I have fond memories of NOS from my early packet days. Used to run it on a home built twin floppy XT clone back then. I had a dual port system with one port on 2m and one on 70cm (both 1200 bps), running NOS on top of BPQ.

Glad you liked the post. Knowledge only has value when it's shared.

Yep. :)


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Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-

I have fond memories of NOS from my early packet days. Used to run it
on a home built twin floppy XT clone back then. I had a dual port
system with one port on 2m and one on 70cm (both 1200 bps), running NOS
on top of BPQ.

There's a station in California running Phil's original NOS on BSD!
One of the sites linked to me can get to it from RF. I was shocked to find
it. MFNOS is nice. I worked with K2MF to fix a LOT of memory leaks and such that were in Phil's original code... and extensive work on the BBS part of it which Barry K2MF didn't really understand.

Many now a day who choose to run a NOS are using JNOS2 by Maiko VE4KLM.
Years ago, Maiko, Barry, and I would sit in convers and headbang on new
things to create for NOS :) Those were fun days too.


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Hi all.

Just a quick request to solicit for any feedback you may wish to share
about fsxNet.

If you have any thoughts on how things are going at present, stuff you would like to see more/less of, ideas for echos/file areas etc to add/remove etc. Stuff that could be done differently or things reinstated etc.

You get the idea. Any feedback good, bad or otherwise appreciated.

Can you ** please ** post any replies into FSX_NET and not here. I just want
to keep all the fsxNet stuff in the echo set up for discussions about it.

I will cross post this message into several echos in fsxNet to ensure it's
been seen by folks who may otherwise not see it if not linked to some echos in the network. So advance apologies for the x-post spam.

If you are not linked to FSX_NET here's the info about this echo should you wish to Areafix it from your HUB.

[snip]

FSX_NET - Discussions about fsxNet. Chat about current network operations, plans for the future and how to best implement them.

[snip]

Thanks in advance.

Best, Paul.

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On 15 May 2021 at 02:20p, N1uro pondered and said...

A little something for those who aren't hams to try and encourage 'em to get a license.

Good to know, thanks! :)

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On 14 May 2021 at 04:53a, bcw142 pondered and said...

This is FSX_NET so should be the area for feedback ;)

This is FSX_BBS but your feedback is appreciated. The bulk of the
conversation is taking place over in FSX_NET :)

I'm OK with the current groups, in truth I mostly use FSX_GEN, FSX_MYS, FSX_BOT, and FSX_NET, I'm sure most of us have our groups and that it changes over time. The real advantage is the small number of trolls that inhabit FSXNet areas. We've been good that way so far unlike what
happened to both FIDO & USENET. Hope we can keep that up ;)

Same, thanks :)

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N1uro wrote to Blue White <=-

We all know Phil Karn came up with the original NOS. He and Brian
Kantor were very close friends (as I was with BK). When Phil wrote the original TCP/IP stack for the PC (aka: NOS) and put ax.25 in it, BK
came up with the idea of sharing mail messages between sites and that's how NNTP came to be. BK was also the lead in the original SMTP RFC and invented ipencapsulation which is half of what we use today as VPNs.

If memory serves, Phil worked for Qualcomm and wrote qpopper, the POP3
server I used for years.


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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to N1uro <=-

If memory serves, Phil worked for Qualcomm and wrote qpopper, the POP3 server I used for years.

It was at NEC where he wrote the original PC TCP/IP socket... on a DARE!
His co-workers challenged him to write a socket for their XTs that spoke
IP to the company VAX. As he continued with the system he realized:
- he could incorporate ax.25/NetRom into it
- he could add servers as well as clients

NOS was born.

From NEC he did indeed move onto Qualcomm where qpopper and Eudora were
made.

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This is FSX_NET so should be the area for feedback ;)

I'm OK with the current groups, in truth I mostly use FSX_GEN, FSX_MYS, FSX_BOT, and FSX_NET, I'm sure most of us have our groups and that it
changes over time. The real advantage is the small number of trolls that inhabit FSXNet areas. We've been good that way so far unlike what happened
to both FIDO & USENET. Hope we can keep that up ;)

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bcw142 wrote to Avon <=-

This is FSX_NET so should be the area for feedback ;)

I'm OK with the current groups, in truth I mostly use FSX_GEN, FSX_MYS, FSX_BOT, and FSX_NET, I'm sure most of us have our groups and that it changes over time. The real advantage is the small number of trolls
that inhabit FSXNet areas. We've been good that way so far unlike what happened to both FIDO & USENET. Hope we can keep that up ;)

Getting my feed just as this thread was closing, I guess I missed what happened to FIDO but USENET turned into a complete disaster! All the binary attachments and what have you - if you didn't have at least an OC-8 feed you were
missing many of the pieces and it took way too long to download!

USENET/NNTP was originally developed by WB6CYT who became SK last autum as a method for ham radio NOS BBS systems to exchange public mail between them.
It caught on with the general internet community and next thing you know
USENET was created.

A little something for those who aren't hams to try and encourage 'em to
get a license.

</history> :)

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On 05-17-21 08:14, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

There's a station in California running Phil's original NOS on BSD!
One of the sites linked to me can get to it from RF. I was shocked to
find it. MFNOS is nice. I worked with K2MF to fix a LOT of memory leaks

Nice surprise. :) I can't recall the exact variant I was running. There were so many around, and none of the ones I've seen more recently, match what I recall running. Sadly, that old system config is well and truly dead, as it lived on floppies. :(

and such that were in Phil's original code... and extensive work on the BBS part of it which Barry K2MF didn't really understand.

Nice work. :)

Many now a day who choose to run a NOS are using JNOS2 by Maiko VE4KLM. Years ago, Maiko, Barry, and I would sit in convers and headbang on new things to create for NOS :) Those were fun days too.

I bet. I was never a coder. I do have an aptitude for it, but my needs are too physically active for me to sit down and do it. I'm an odd mix of nerd, geek and jock, and have to balance that! BBSing is good for the geek side, I can do it as much or little as I need, and ham radio can be combined with other interests. Sadly, I discovered before I was 20 that spending long hours writing code (even when it was stuff that I wanted to work on) wasn't good for my head. :(

But I do like alpha and beta testing. I recently discovered some bugs in MMDVMHost, and gave G4KLX the details, so he could fix them. Jonathan advised me this morning that he's fixed the two bugs that I found. :)

Years ago, I had a field day finding bugs in thelinkbox, a repeater controller and Echolink client/conference by WB6YMH. I tended to find so many bugs, because I applied out of the box thinking to how I used his software, breaking assumptions and stressing his code in unexpected ways. :D Check out the Changelog sometime. ;)


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Hello Tony;

Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-

Nice surprise. :) I can't recall the exact variant I was running.
There were so many around, and none of the ones I've seen more
recently, match what I recall running. Sadly, that old system config
is well and truly dead, as it lived on floppies. :(

I'll guess the original NOS or possibly MFNOS. JNOS might have been a bit
too much for floppies. MFNOS and Phil's NOS were always somewhat compact
in size.

Barry always insisted that MFNOS would never run on linux - he pooped himself when I got it working :) Not only that, it works better on linux than on native DOS! I still run a copy for grins as a hysterical/historical monument sort of thing.

I bet. I was never a coder. I do have an aptitude for it, but my
needs are too physically active for me to sit down and do it. I'm an
odd mix of nerd, geek and jock, and have to balance that! BBSing is
good for the geek side, I can do it as much or little as I need, and
ham radio can be combined with other interests. Sadly, I discovered before I was 20 that spending long hours writing code (even when it was stuff that I wanted to work on) wasn't good for my head. :(

It would have been great for the paycheck however! Building things that people can use typically pays large sums of money.

But I do like alpha and beta testing. I recently discovered some bugs
in MMDVMHost, and gave G4KLX the details, so he could fix them.
Jonathan advised me this morning that he's fixed the two bugs that I found. :)

Quality control folk help a lot!.. especially if the reports are done in a manner that's understandable. I have some that volunteer info however their english is quite broken and sometimes their information gets lost in the translations. For the most part my stuff is about where it can go.

Years ago, I had a field day finding bugs in thelinkbox, a repeater controller and Echolink client/conference by WB6YMH. I tended to find
so many bugs, because I applied out of the box thinking to how I used
his software, breaking assumptions and stressing his code in unexpected ways. :D Check out the Changelog sometime. ;)

Sometimes such things are appreciated, sometimes it's more headaches than aspirin is on hand <G> I appreciate feedback and if I find that some things make sense I'll include them. G4APL has been great in suggesting things. I've been trying to tap KE6I to be on my dev team as she's a game coder for junglevision but she never replies to my queries.

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On 05-19-21 16:57, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I'll guess the original NOS or possibly MFNOS. JNOS might have been a
bit too much for floppies. MFNOS and Phil's NOS were always somewhat compact in size.

Yeah, no idea now. :)

Barry always insisted that MFNOS would never run on linux - he pooped himself when I got it working :) Not only that, it works better on
linux than on native DOS! I still run a copy for grins as a hysterical/historical monument sort of thing.

Nice! :)

It would have been great for the paycheck however! Building things that people can use typically pays large sums of money.

True, but money doesn't make up for sanity. :)

Quality control folk help a lot!.. especially if the reports are done
in a manner that's understandable. I have some that volunteer info
however their english is quite broken and sometimes their information
gets lost in the translations. For the most part my stuff is about
where it can go.

Well, if you can understand "Strine", I can help! :D

Sometimes such things are appreciated, sometimes it's more headaches
than aspirin is on hand <G> I appreciate feedback and if I find that
some things make sense I'll include them. G4APL has been great in suggesting things. I've been trying to tap KE6I to be on my dev team as she's a game coder for junglevision but she never replies to my
queries.

Haha, with me, you never know what I'll attempt. I link ideas that most people don't associate, and that's the source of my out of the box thinking. Many years ago, after Skip (WB6YMH) chatted with me about the Echolink protocol, and I noticed the similarities with RTP and the Speak Freely protocol that IRLP uses, EchoIRLP was conceived. ;) And I knew Speak Freely, because years before IRLP, I ran it over dialup modems to talk to friends.

Dave Cameron even had to prune the unused codecs from the IRLP software, because I wrote some custom decode entries to access them! :D Let's say that 2400bps LPC didn't sound great over radio. ;)

But it was fun tinkering. :D

There's a couple of things I've done that I don't tell many about, because while they work and are well behaved, they're not officially sanctioned. :)

While I'm not a coder, I am a systems integrator and will attempt to make anything talk to anything, if I can get away with it. ;)


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Hello Tony;

Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-

True, but money doesn't make up for sanity. :)

You're right - and it's part of why when I open my sunroof it's to feel the
air blow through my... scalp <G>

Well, if you can understand "Strine", I can help! :D

HA!

Haha, with me, you never know what I'll attempt. I link ideas that
most people don't associate, and that's the source of my out of the box thinking. Many years ago, after Skip (WB6YMH) chatted with me about
the Echolink protocol, and I noticed the similarities with RTP and the Speak Freely protocol that IRLP uses, EchoIRLP was conceived. ;) And I knew Speak Freely, because years before IRLP, I ran it over dialup
modems to talk to friends.

Congrats on your work! I've done some simlar things with networking. For example when I was going for my Novel Netware 4 cert, the instructors said
in class IP on Netware 2 was impossible - to which I *had* to correct them. While they were semi correct, meaning that the IP stack modules were never included with Netware 2, you *could* import them from Netware 3 as they were compiled by the same compiler. Import them and configure them. They called
my bluff but gave me the modules and a ver 2 server to put them on then went
to their office work stations. To their surprise they received valid ping replies :) I was deep in Netware back then.

Dave Cameron even had to prune the unused codecs from the IRLP
software, because I wrote some custom decode entries to access them! :D
Let's say that 2400bps LPC didn't sound great over radio. ;)

No?? ;-)

But it was fun tinkering. :D

That's the best part of computing - tinkering. Often I find a good amount
of "undocumented features".

There's a couple of things I've done that I don't tell many about,
because while they work and are well behaved, they're not officially sanctioned. :)

Those are often the best kind of features!

While I'm not a coder, I am a systems integrator and will attempt to
make anything talk to anything, if I can get away with it. ;)

Glad you weren't around during my divorce hearing, my ex couldn't talk to
the judge... and was threatened to be jailed <G>



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On 20 May 2021 at 08:03a, Vk3jed pondered and said...

I'll guess the original NOS or possibly MFNOS. JNOS might have been a bit too much for floppies. MFNOS and Phil's NOS were always somewhat compact in size.

Yeah, no idea now. :)

Folks, a gentle reminder to please change the subject of the thread if the subject indeed changes :) It makes it a bit easier for people following along to know what is and is not being discussed. Cheers ears :)

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On 05-19-21 21:11, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Hello Tony;

Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-

True, but money doesn't make up for sanity. :)

You're right - and it's part of why when I open my sunroof it's to feel the air blow through my... scalp <G>

Haha. :)

Well, if you can understand "Strine", I can help! :D

HA!

Bewdy! :D

Congrats on your work! I've done some simlar things with networking.

Thanks. Others write the code, but I can suggest features. :)

For example when I was going for my Novel Netware 4 cert, the
instructors said in class IP on Netware 2 was impossible - to which I *had* to correct them. While they were semi correct, meaning that the
IP stack modules were never included with Netware 2, you *could* import them from Netware 3 as they were compiled by the same compiler. Import them and configure them. They called my bluff but gave me the modules
and a ver 2 server to put them on then went to their office work
stations. To their surprise they received valid ping replies :) I was
deep in Netware back then.

Nice one! :) Yeah I never did a lot with Netware. Did have a server at work at one stage, but it was already running when I started, and never gave trouble (typical Netware, it kept on working, stable as a rock). :) Mind you, their IP was a mess, I had to completely redo their IP addressing on the Windows server.
Later, I added Linux. :)

Dave Cameron even had to prune the unused codecs from the IRLP
software, because I wrote some custom decode entries to access them! :D
Let's say that 2400bps LPC didn't sound great over radio. ;)

No?? ;-)

Wanna sound like a robot? It's nothing like Codec2 or *MBE at the same bitrate. ;)

But it was fun tinkering. :D

That's the best part of computing - tinkering. Often I find a good
amount of "undocumented features".

Yeah, just tinker and see what happens. :) I also have an AllStar node that can access any of the digital modes with an ordinary FM radio. :)

There's a couple of things I've done that I don't tell many about,
because while they work and are well behaved, they're not officially sanctioned. :)

Those are often the best kind of features!

Yeah, I must tell you about one of my systems, probably best in netmail! :)

While I'm not a coder, I am a systems integrator and will attempt to
make anything talk to anything, if I can get away with it. ;)

Glad you weren't around during my divorce hearing, my ex couldn't talk
to the judge... and was threatened to be jailed <G>

Haha, that one might have been beyond me! ;)


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Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-

Thanks. Others write the code, but I can suggest features. :)

Sometimes that's all it takes. When suggestions are made to me I ponder them and if I feel they make logical sense to add to the project I will. If not
then they go in the circular file for future (non)reference <G> There's actually been a few times where I've discounted using a suggestion but later
on I've incorporated it.

Nice one! :) Yeah I never did a lot with Netware. Did have a server
at work at one stage, but it was already running when I started, and
never gave trouble (typical Netware, it kept on working, stable as a rock). :) Mind you, their IP was a mess, I had to completely redo
their IP addressing on the Windows server.
Later, I added Linux. :)

Netware was solid as a rock for being a 'file' server. Wasn't too bad as
a communications server either - a bit trickier to set up but worked. Even
had it's email system working on it... in house only but that's all we really needed at the time. Windows - forget it. More ram leakage than in the Watergate Tapes <G> N4GAA does Microsoft "Security"... their secret policy is to *always* have back doors. For IP stability, linux 2nd, BSD 1st. I just wish there was a good ax.25 stack for it. Brian Kantor started to write one as that was his OS of choice.

Wanna sound like a robot? It's nothing like Codec2 or *MBE at the same bitrate. ;)

LOL!

Yeah, just tinker and see what happens. :) I also have an AllStar node that can access any of the digital modes with an ordinary FM radio. :)

That sounds sorta interesting.

Yeah, I must tell you about one of my systems, probably best in
netmail! :)

So be it, will be waiting.

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Hahahaha! True that!

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Avon wrote to All <=-

On 20 May 2021 at 08:03a, Vk3jed pondered and said...

I'll guess the original NOS or possibly MFNOS. JNOS might have been a bit too much for floppies. MFNOS and Phil's NOS were always somewhat compact in size.

Yeah, no idea now. :)

Folks, a gentle reminder to please change the subject of the thread if
the subject indeed changes :) It makes it a bit easier for people following along to know what is and is not being discussed. Cheers ears
:)

We actually should take our banter to Netmail and combine all our threads
into one sweater <G>

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On 05-20-21 07:23, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-

Thanks. Others write the code, but I can suggest features. :)

Sometimes that's all it takes. When suggestions are made to me I ponder them and if I feel they make logical sense to add to the project I
will. If not then they go in the circular file for future
(non)reference <G> There's actually been a few times where I've
discounted using a suggestion but later on I've incorporated it.

I prefer if devs ask for why I suggested something. Sometimes it's a case of either they never considered a good idea, or I didn't fully understand their docs and there's actually a way to achieve the same result already available, even though it wasn't initially obvious (to me). :) Finding out the latter opens up a heap of exploration and I usually find other cool things to do with their software.

One group of developers I don't bother engaging with are web forum developers, because they usually have ideological bias against incorporating useful media like email and NNTP. :/

Netware was solid as a rock for being a 'file' server. Wasn't too bad
as a communications server either - a bit trickier to set up but
worked. Even had it's email system working on it... in house only but

Yeah, we used Netware purely as a file server. Never missed a beat.

that's all we really needed at the time. Windows - forget it. More ram leakage than in the Watergate Tapes <G> N4GAA does Microsoft

Haha :D

"Security"... their secret policy is to *always* have back doors. For
IP stability, linux 2nd, BSD 1st. I just wish there was a good ax.25
stack for it. Brian Kantor started to write one as that was his OS of choice.

Yes, BSD is a rock solid OS, though I haven't done much with it. I tend to use Linux.

Wanna sound like a robot? It's nothing like Codec2 or *MBE at the same bitrate. ;)

LOL!

Yep. ;)

Yeah, just tinker and see what happens. :) I also have an AllStar node that can access any of the digital modes with an ordinary FM radio. :)

That sounds sorta interesting.

Yeah, install an ASL node on an x86_64PC. Add DVSwitch, configure the two to talk to each other via USRP, then add some macros for commands (mode switching, etc), and an Autopatch macro for connecting to the various modes. I'm not yet sure how to connect to D-STAR by DTMF (since D-STAR uses callsign based addressing), and when M17 can be remotely commanded, it will have the same issue. :)

Yeah, I must tell you about one of my systems, probably best in
netmail! :)

So be it, will be waiting.

Netmail sent, should have arrived before this message, since I posted it online. :)

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Hahahaha! True that!

Yep but can be fun. :D

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Spin and grind disks? :P


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On 05-20-21 19:39, Avon wrote to All <=-

Folks, a gentle reminder to please change the subject of the thread if
the subject indeed changes :) It makes it a bit easier for people following along to know what is and is not being discussed. Cheers ears
:)

Just upgrade your grey matter thread processor to use content based linking, like I have. :P The subject header is simply a label for the actual thread (whatever that may be about ;) ).


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On 21 May 2021 at 09:47a, Vk3jed pondered and said...

linking, like I have. :P The subject header is simply a label for the actual thread (whatever that may be about ;) ).

My point exactly... and your discussions were not about fsxNet feedback.

I only mention it as others have commented about this very issue in general when offering feedback about echomail conversations...

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On 05-21-21 13:07, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 21 May 2021 at 09:47a, Vk3jed pondered and said...

linking, like I have. :P The subject header is simply a label for the actual thread (whatever that may be about ;) ).

My point exactly... and your discussions were not about fsxNet
feedback.

with me the exact words don't matter, just the thread lol

I only mention it as others have commented about this very issue in general when offering feedback about echomail conversations...

Haha OK. :)

You know I'm a bit tongue in cheek, don't you? ;)


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