• BBS-independent MRC client (door)?

    From Alpha@21:4/158 to All on Saturday, February 20, 2021 16:59:25
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have
    been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to
    have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g.
    native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be
    greatly appreciated :)

    Cheers!



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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to Alpha on Saturday, February 20, 2021 21:07:30
    `07*** Quoting Alpha from a message to All ***`07

    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that
    have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've
    seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it
    be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program?

    I was just thinking about this! I'm re-setting up Telegard yet again for no particular reason and was looking at MRC. I quickly gave up on that, but it would be cool to get "legacy" BBSes on MRC as well.

    Jay

    ... A great deal of money is never enough once you have it.

    --- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110.1)
  • From Barmed@21:4/127 to Alpha on Saturday, February 20, 2021 19:59:34
    On 20 Feb 2021, Alpha said the following...
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    I think that there was sonething along those lines at one time. I seem to recall some sort of chat thing across some local BBSes back when.

    I don't think strictly speaking MRC is necessarily Mystic only. I would think that if someone managed a port to work with a different BBS program that as long as it could connect to the same server the Mystic boards use, it should work.

    But I'm not that much of a programmer. And what I do fiddle with is
    primarily text based games so no help there.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (21:4/127)
  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Alpha on Saturday, February 20, 2021 20:36:02
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    Cheers!



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    * Origin: The Drunken Gamer BBS (21:4/158)

    Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using
    wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.

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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Alpha on Sunday, February 21, 2021 09:26:44
    I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.

    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his permission before making an attempt.

    :: XQTR :: Another Droid BBS :: andr01d.zapto.org:9999 :: xqtr@gmx.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Another Droid BBS # andr01d.zapto.org:9999 (21:1/111)
  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to xqtr on Sunday, February 21, 2021 08:12:19
    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
    contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
    permission before making an attempt.

    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client
    projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.

    I was thinking of something akin to apam's MagiChat door, but for MRC.

    https://gitlab.com/apamment/magichat-ssl-door

    (that's a really awsewome chat door, BTW)


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Sunday, February 21, 2021 05:07:09
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    I am no developer, but it seems like some other folks are also working on MRC;

    Stackfault has said that he's thinking about an update to add functionality, kind of an MRC 2.0 where he fixes some things and gives it a little more ability.

    aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE sometime next week.

    MeaTLoTioN mentioned in passing that he might wanna add some functions to his Johnny5 BOT...

    even newcomers, like NUKE of Westwood, were trying to fart around and make the ENiGMA.5 version of MRC work a little better with /commands.

    -----
    My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time and/or keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may have just experienced or went thru??

    While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at 100 BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and can go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I think your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.



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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Alpha on Sunday, February 21, 2021 17:02:50
    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client

    Nope... MRC is not IRC. You should contact the programmer of MRC to learn about it (protocol etc.).

    :: XQTR :: Another Droid BBS :: andr01d.zapto.org:9999 :: xqtr@gmx.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Another Droid BBS # andr01d.zapto.org:9999 (21:1/111)
  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to paulie420 on Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:49:03
    My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out
    to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time
    and/or keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may
    have just experienced or went thru??

    Exactly why I'm posting, just asking... Thanks for the pointers to all
    the folks working on them. If I actually get serious about this (heh),
    that'd be a really good start.

    I like to look at code! I'm running through the MRC Python scripts, just
    to get an idea of what's going on. If there's an MRC implementation in Enigma/node.js, that's super helpful just to see how it all works.

    While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel
    the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any
    doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at
    100 BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and
    can go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I
    think your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would
    service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.

    Thanks, Paulie420!


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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to xqtr on Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:50:09
    Nope... MRC is not IRC. You should contact the programmer of MRC to
    learn about it (protocol etc.).

    xqtr: thanks! That'd be a good next step...

    Cheers,

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  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to Alpha on Sunday, February 21, 2021 15:31:57

    On Saturday, February 20th Alpha muttered...
    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    The MRC protocol is incredibly simple. If you look at contrib mrc.js module in enigma it's not a large file at all. Someone could come along and write one in a compiled language, but then you also have to deal with various systems/architectures. A version written in standalone Node.js or Python for example could go a long way -- but even then people wanting to hook up a more retro setup would be in the dust.

    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.





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  • From roovis@21:4/165 to NuSkooler on Sunday, February 21, 2021 17:31:39
    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.

    StackFault mentioned that encryption is in the works. I don't know about decentralization.

    -roovis

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: w0pr.win (21:4/165)
  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Alpha on Monday, February 22, 2021 19:41:38
    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his permission before making an attempt.

    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.

    I was thinking of something akin to apam's MagiChat door, but for MRC.

    https://gitlab.com/apamment/magichat-ssl-door

    (that's a really awsewome chat door, BTW)


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    --- Talisman v0.10-dev (Linux/x86_64)
    * Origin: The Drunken Gamer BBS (21:4/158)

    Actually, MRC (Mystic Relay Chat) is open source and is written in
    Python and MPL -- both of which are all in source.

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 07:39:58
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that ha been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a

    Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using
    wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.

    Reach out to me and I can help with the protocol specs and all that.

    More than welcome to have other platforms on it.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to xqtr on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 07:41:31
    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
    contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
    permission before making an attempt.

    Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that
    documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out and we can work together to make it go forward.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Alpha on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 07:42:52
    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.

    No it's using a simplified protocol which is maintained to allow for legacy
    but there is a new protocol in the making that will support features unavailable in the current implementation, while maintaining backward compatibility.

    Cheers!

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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to paulie420 on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 07:47:29
    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    I am no developer, but it seems like some other folks are also working
    on MRC;

    Stackfault has said that he's thinking about an update to add functionality, kind of an MRC 2.0 where he fixes some things and gives
    it a little more ability.

    I maintain the server portion and the documentation wiki, any serious
    developer can reach out to me and we will work something out.

    aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE
    sometime next week.

    It's gonna be daBomb! MRC on CNet is really cool!

    MeaTLoTioN mentioned in passing that he might wanna add some functions
    to his Johnny5 BOT...

    New MRC version has support for utility and services, this will add the possibility to developers wanting to develop services to use MRC to give an interface. This will use a distinct entry point and services will be limited
    to their own rooms or private messages to avoid cluttering the chat rooms.

    even newcomers, like NUKE of Westwood, were trying to fart around and
    make the ENiGMA.5 version of MRC work a little better with /commands.

    Absolutely!

    My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time and/or
    keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may have just experienced or went thru??

    While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at 100
    BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and can
    go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I think
    your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.

    Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll make it happen.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to NuSkooler on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 07:52:15
    On Saturday, February 20th Alpha muttered...
    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    The MRC protocol is incredibly simple. If you look at contrib mrc.js module in enigma it's not a large file at all. Someone could come along and write one in a compiled language, but then you also have to deal
    with various systems/architectures. A version written in standalone Node.js or Python for example could go a long way -- but even then
    people wanting to hook up a more retro setup would be in the dust.

    The current protocol is really simple but has some shortcomings that I'm looking at fixing with version 2.

    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.

    These are in the plans to some extent, encryption might drive additional challenges for some platforms. Decentralization is another thing I'd like to add, at this stage I'm looking at remove SPOF by having a multiple hub model. Complete decentralization may come to life at a later time.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to roovis on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 07:58:14
    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lac what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.

    StackFault mentioned that encryption is in the works. I don't know about decentralization.

    Yes, encryption will be available at two levels

    TLS at the transport level and opportunistic symmetric at the E2E level for private messages and secure rooms. This may be used for authenticity
    validation as well, more on this later.

    Rooms will also have a TLS tag, meaning some rooms may require you to connect over a TLS channel to enter. This will still allow non-encrypted BBS to connect to MRC, without being able to get into the secure rooms.

    Also, the whole message distribution model is changing from broadcast to unicast with a greater focus on privacy, obviously.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 08:00:47
    Actually, MRC (Mystic Relay Chat) is open source and is written in
    Python and MPL -- both of which are all in source.

    Mystic Relay Chat is legacy and is not longer supported.

    The currently maintained version, Multi Relay Chat, (keeping the acronym) has
    a whole new server code, support for other platforms like Enigma, Synchronet, CNet, etc and almost 70% code change on the client side.

    Using an old client will connect to the new server but mileage will vary in
    the experience satisfaction.

    Cheers!

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Stackfault on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 13:51:50
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that
    been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen

    Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.

    Reach out to me and I can help with the protocol specs and all that.

    More than welcome to have other platforms on it.

    Cheers!

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    (21:1/172)

    If you could, email me at admin@winserver.org with the specs and I will
    see what I can do :)

    ... I am Locutus of Borg. This Tagline is irrelevant.
    --- Wildcat! v8.0.454.10 (May 26 2020), Editor Mod v2.1
    * Origin: Omicron Theta * Southaven MS * winserver.org (21:2/136)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 19:02:32
    If you could, email me at admin@winserver.org with the specs and I will see what I can do :)

    Email away.

    Cheers!

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  • From Exodus@21:1/163 to StackFault on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 17:28:02
    see what I can do :)

    I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would love to see it.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to StackFault on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 18:11:04
    Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out
    and we
    can work together to make it go forward.

    Cheers!

    I guess that counts me out then


    :)


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to Exodus on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 21:39:04
    `07*** Quoting Exodus from a message to StackFault ***`07

    I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would
    love to see it.

    Ditto. If an .exe were made available with door32.sys support I could add
    MRC to Telegard! :)

    Jay

    ... A day for firm decisions!!!!! Or is it?

    --- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110.1)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Alpha on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:31:54
    MRC is mostly in python which will run on most systems. So an independent version should be possible without much change. There are already multiple versions for different OS under Mystic, just need to adapt to other
    platforms. Seems like the CRT library for display could take over for the display hooks for Mystic currently being used. I think that's all that
    needs changing. Are there python doors out there? In truth it doesn't need
    to be tied to BBS in anyway - it can be an independent program like any
    chat client.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Warpslide on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:49:32
    On 20 Feb 2021, Warpslide said the following...

    I was just thinking about this! I'm re-setting up Telegard yet again
    for no particular reason and was looking at MRC. I quickly gave up on that, but it would be cool to get "legacy" BBSes on MRC as well.

    Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it in
    the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well
    go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)
    Pretty much all BBS used are telnet like IRC can be, which is pretty much
    how that started (as chat clients). It seems many want to turn MRC in to a monster - will it grow till it can send and receive email? As the old Unix joke goes...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to StackFault on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 17:34:32
    B00M, there it is. :P I am getting my hands wet with simple MPL, and have made a mod or two with RCS, Black Panther and The Godfather... b most of my stuff has been sticking at that visual level.

    Well, there are multiple ways to help.

    I am willing to help in any ways that Paulie420 can, SF. With MRC, with other projects, with creating the small things that I do. I just reached out to you about a small project. (netmail)

    Keep going, the little stuff is also important, it teaches you a lot and slowly you'll get into more stuff. Most of my mods are never released, people uses them on my board without knowing it or it's SysOp side, to help with management tasks. I may release them one day but it's not
    urgent for me just yet.

    Appreciate your words, and I do think I've created a few things that are.... good for the BBS community. I ain't stopping, daddio.

    Cheers.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to paulie420 on Thursday, March 04, 2021 06:14:49
    Well, there are multiple ways to help.

    I am willing to help in any ways that Paulie420 can, SF. With MRC, with other projects, with creating the small things that I do. I just reached out to you about a small project. (netmail)

    Appreciate your words, and I do think I've created a few things that are.... good for the BBS community. I ain't stopping, daddio.

    That's very good!

    Cheers!

    |15 ß Þ |15StackFault |08<|03.|11.|15P|11h|03EN|11o|15M|11.|03.|08>
    |11 Ý ß |11The Bottomless Abyss BBS
    |03 ß Ýß |03ssh|08.|072222 |08/ |03telnet|08.|072023 |08/ |03https
    |08 ÜþÞ |08bbs|07.|08bottomlessabyss|07.|08net

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172)
  • From jokker@21:4/154 to StackFault on Monday, March 08, 2021 23:19:36
    Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll
    make ithappen.

    So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP stack. I found an archive that had a python client, server and MPL example. So I've managed to cobble something together that can generally talk to the server at the protocol level. I figure I'll flush it out as a simple DOS client first and then move it over to OpenDoors as a BBS door. If I can find the netware TCP SDK I may compile a version for that stack as well. I suppose doing a pure pkt driver one as well is likely to follow. I guess the sky is the limit in this DOS eat DOS world. :D

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (21:4/154)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to jokker on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 09:52:43
    So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work
    for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP

    That's awesome! Running something in DOS would really increase the availability. I've answered your email so you should be good to start.

    Let me know if you need anything.

    Cheers!

    |15 ß Þ |15StackFault |08<|03.|11.|15P|11h|03EN|11o|15M|11.|03.|08>
    |11 Ý ß |11The Bottomless Abyss BBS
    |03 ß Ýß |03ssh|08.|072222 |08/ |03telnet|08.|072023 |08/ |03https
    |08 ÜþÞ |08bbs|07.|08bottomlessabyss|07.|08net

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172)
  • From opicron@21:3/126 to Alpha on Tuesday, May 18, 2021 18:01:48
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.
    I have made a mystic IRC chat (which doubles as live pager/chat with sysop
    and multinode chat) It connects to an (password protected if chosen) channel
    on any irc server (with ssl if needed). I am planning to release it soonish,
    I can even host the irc channels if required.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would
    be Al> greatly appreciated :)
    Log into bbs.opicron.eu to check it out, give me a yell if you have some questions.

    L8er
    oP!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: TheForze - bbs.opicron.eu:23 (21:3/126)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to opicron on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 15:20:10
    I have made a mystic IRC chat (which doubles as live pager/chat with
    sysop and multinode chat) It connects to an (password protected if
    chosen) channel on any irc server (with ssl if needed). I am planning to release it soonish, I can even host the irc channels if required.

    While I'm an MRC guy, I like your work and will head over to checkout what wizardry yer cooking up with IRC.

    I liked your text-page sysop work and wanna see what you've done now.

    I wish there was a better/good page sysOp thing in Mystic... I don't even think the stock one really works - or at least not on 2o.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/19 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to paulie420 on Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:46:25
    On 19 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    I wish there was a better/good page sysOp thing in Mystic... I don't
    even think
    the stock one really works - or at least not on 2o.

    Nope, wasn't setup to as there were addons that did it. Doors and the like. I'm not sure if g00r00 has fixed it, but there have been a few addons added
    in the last few years that do it. Hopefully this new IRC one can do it too
    and we'll use that and have an IRC for each board or something.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)