• Echomail vs Multiple BBS

    From JF@21:1/139 to All on Sunday, January 31, 2021 07:20:51
    Hello everyone!

    I'm currently running BinkD and Mystic together on the same computer. I'd
    like to experiment with other BBS programs, so I'm wondering if BinkD has the capability to route messages to/from multiple nodes, or if another program is required to do that?

    Thanks!

    JF

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to JF on Sunday, January 31, 2021 04:55:38
    Re: Echomail vs Multiple BBS
    By: JF to All on Sun Jan 31 2021 07:20 am

    I'm currently running BinkD and Mystic together on the same computer. I'd like to experiment with other BBS programs, so I'm wondering if BinkD has the capability to route messages to/from multiple nodes, or if another program is required to do that?

    You can use binkd on a different setup with a different port since your current setup is probably using port 24554. You can setup a different configuration of binkd to listen on port 24556 (or something unique) and tell your binkd to poll that node on that port.

    If you are using binkd the keyword to set in the config for that is iport, set it to 24556, or the port of your choice. You can run as many copies of binkd as you need, each one needs it's own port to listen on.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From JF@21:1/139 to Al on Sunday, January 31, 2021 08:32:55
    Hi Al!

    You can use binkd on a different setup with a different port since your current setup is probably using port 24554. You can setup a different configuration of binkd to listen on port 24556 (or something unique) and tell your binkd to poll that node on that port.

    I didn't realize you could run multiple instances of BinkD with different configuration. I was assuming a single instance of BinkD could handle it all.

    I get what you're saying, though there's something that still eludes me. When BinkD pulls the fsxNet hub, for instance, to get echomail destined to my
    node, what takes care of "duplicating" or spooling that traffic for each of
    my internal points? From the fsxNet network point of view, I'm pulling
    traffic for 1, then internally, I'd like to route that traffic to multiple BBSes. Does that make sense?

    Thanks!
    JF

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to JF on Sunday, January 31, 2021 14:55:21
    JF wrote (2021-01-31):

    I get what you're saying, though there's something that still eludes me. When BinkD pulls the fsxNet hub, for instance, to get echomail destined
    to my node, what takes care of "duplicating" or spooling that traffic for each of my internal points? From the fsxNet network point of view, I'm pulling traffic for 1, then internally, I'd like to route that traffic to multiple BBSes. Does that make sense?

    Binkd itself just receives and sends files. You need a tosser for mail routing. There is one included in Mystic. Other alternatives for Linux are:

    Standalone tossers:
    Crashmail (or Magimail)
    Squish
    FMail
    hpt

    other BBS packages with tossers included:
    Enigma
    SBBS
    Talisman

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  • From JF@21:1/139 to Oli on Sunday, January 31, 2021 09:12:18
    Hi Oli!

    Binkd itself just receives and sends files. You need a tosser for mail routing. There is one included in Mystic. Other alternatives for Linux

    Ah, yes makes sense. I will look at the external ones you suggested since I'd like to keep this kind of functionality decoupled from any specific BBS programs.

    Thank you!
    JF

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to JF on Sunday, January 31, 2021 13:42:29
    Re: Re: Echomail vs Multiple BBS
    By: JF to Al on Sun Jan 31 2021 08:32 am

    I didn't realize you could run multiple instances of BinkD with different configuration. I was assuming a single instance of BinkD could handle it all.

    You can load up binkd with AKA's and links for your own node(s). If you want to pass that traffic to other nodes you can do that as well but each of those nodes has to have their own node # and setup.

    I get what you're saying, though there's something that still eludes me. When BinkD pulls the fsxNet hub, for instance, to get echomail destined to my node, what takes care of "duplicating" or spooling that traffic for each of my internal points? From the fsxNet network point of view, I'm pulling traffic for 1, then internally, I'd like to route that traffic to multiple BBSes. Does that make sense?

    The mailer, binkd, Binkit or Mystic's mailer (any mailer at all) only accept incoming traffic and send mail to your links.

    If you want to send traffic around to your own systems you can assign them point numbers, or they may have there own node numbers and that part is handled by the tosser at each node. It can be any tosser you choose. That is what I am doing here on this node.

    Each node needs it's own address and tosser/mailer.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From JF@21:1/139 to Al on Sunday, January 31, 2021 19:09:28
    If you want to send traffic around to your own systems you can assign
    them point numbers, or they may have there own node numbers and that
    part is handled by the tosser at each node. It can be any tosser you choose. That is what I am doing here on this node.

    This is where I'm at now, trying to find a tosser (HPT vs Crashmail II?) and
    to experiment setting up point numbers. Hours of fun I'm sure!

    JF

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to JF on Sunday, January 31, 2021 16:32:05
    Re: Re: Echomail vs Multiple BBS
    By: JF to Al on Sun Jan 31 2021 07:09 pm

    This is where I'm at now, trying to find a tosser (HPT vs Crashmail II?) and to experiment setting up point numbers. Hours of fun I'm sure!

    Choosing a software is the hard part.

    The husky tools include nodelist/echomail/tic support although it's a bit more involved to get it all setup, it won't let you down.

    Crashmail is also a very good as a tosser. I'm not sure where to grab good working source, Oli would know.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to JF on Monday, February 01, 2021 11:48:34
    I get what you're saying, though there's something that still
    eludes me. When BinkD pulls the fsxNet hub, for instance, to get
    echomail destined to my node, what takes care of "duplicating" or
    spooling that traffic for each of my internal points? From the
    fsxNet network point of view, I'm pulling traffic for 1, then
    internally, I'd like to route that traffic to multiple BBSes. Does
    that make sense?

    The best way is to setup the other bbs software as a point from
    your main system. I do that with a second system here that I'm sloyly
    getting going/re-configured. (Not this one)..




    \/orlon
    VK3HEG


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to JF on Sunday, January 31, 2021 20:09:45
    On 31 Jan 2021, JF said the following...

    This is where I'm at now, trying to find a tosser (HPT vs Crashmail II?) and to experiment setting up point numbers. Hours of fun I'm sure!

    That's what I was doing for a bit. I setup a couple of other BBS programs (Telegard & Synchronet) and then had them as point nodes off of Mystic.

    Telegard doesn't have a built in mail tosser, so I had to remember how to setup FastEcho to get mail flowing between the two.


    Jay

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Al on Monday, February 01, 2021 10:03:37
    Al wrote (2021-01-31):

    Crashmail is also a very good as a tosser. I'm not sure where to grab
    good working source, Oli would know.

    on debian:
    apt install crashmail

    and on github:
    https://github.com/ftnapps/crashmail

    There is nothing that prevents you from switching to another tosser later, e.g. hpt which supports the same message base formats.

    I would start which crashmail, it's easy to configure.

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  • From JF@21:1/139 to All on Monday, February 01, 2021 07:07:40
    Hello!

    Thank you all for your valuable feedback. I've got a pretty clear picture of what needs to be done. I will set up my other boards as points, and install Crashmail to do the tossing. Then there would be nothing preventing me from moving to another tosser like HTP if I wanted to switch.

    Excited to get started!

    JF

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