Re: Synology DS1010+
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Aug 29 2021 09:56 am

I went to my local electronics thrift shop looking for a new stereo receiver, and on a whim picked up a Synology DS1010+ for $110.

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THESE THINGS?

I thought the existence of these things was common knowledge XD

That said, I don't like it much when they try to shoehorn 5000 functions within an appliance that is supposed to be a file server. I get it that they include file-related functions (for example, Torrent software in a NAS is nice for building a seedbox) but when they include network related features(DNS servers, web proxies) I start to scratch my head, because those things belong to a proper server or a router at best.


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Re: Synology DS1010+
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 30 2021 05:41 am

Re: Synology DS1010+
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Aug 29 2021 09:56 am

I went to my local electronics thrift shop looking for a new stereo receiver, and on a whim picked up a Synology DS1010+ for $110.

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THESE THINGS?

I thought the existence of these things was common knowledge XD

That said, I don't like it much when they try to shoehorn 5000 functions within an appliance that is supposed to be a file server. I get it that they include file-related functions (for example, Torrent software in a NAS is nice for building a seedbox) but when they include network related features(DNS servers, web proxies) I start to scratch my head, because those things belong to a proper server or a router at best.

yeah, i dont want all those things in a nas.
i'll stick with my drobo clones.
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Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

That said, I don't like it much when they try to shoehorn 5000
functions within an appliance that is supposed to be a file server.

Yeah, but I was trying to shoehorn all of that functionality into my router, which definitely wasn't meant for it. :)

For a homelab, this looks like a good solution - RAID in a compact chassis, hot-swap drive bays, kernel-mode Linux-based NFS (my router implements NFS with a user-mode app, which is slowww...)

This week I'm going to play with trunking to my router to agregate the 2 LAN ports on my NAS and integrate NFS into my Proxmox config.


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Re: Re: Synology DS1010+
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Mon Aug 30 2021 07:49 am

Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

That said, I don't like it much when they try to shoehorn 5000 functions within an appliance that is supposed to be a file server.

Yeah, but I was trying to shoehorn all of that functionality into my router, which definitely wasn't meant for it. :)

For a homelab, this looks like a good solution - RAID in a compact chassis, hot-swap drive bays, kernel-mode Linux-based NFS (my router implements NFS with a user-mode app, which is slowww...)

This week I'm going to play with trunking to my router to agregate the 2 LAN ports on my NAS and integrate NFS into my Proxmox config.

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Definitively, I think it is much better if you try to shoehorn LAN infrastructure into your NAS than trying to shoehorn NFS into your router.

However, if you have a proper Proxmox system I'd rather let it handle all the proxying and dhcping and dnsing with containers or WMs if you really don't want to let your router do it.

Using the NAS as an storage server for a Proxmox systems sounds like an interesting idea. Add more NAS and more Proxmox boxes and you may actually build a virtualization cluster.


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Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

However, if you have a proper Proxmox system I'd rather let it handle
all the proxying and dhcping and dnsing with containers or WMs if you really don't want to let your router do it.

Using the NAS as an storage server for a Proxmox systems sounds like an interesting idea. Add more NAS and more Proxmox boxes and you may
actually build a virtualization cluster.

Ultimately, that's my plan - once I get rid of the flakey powerline adapters I'm running on now, and have gig ethernet running to my home lab. Tomorrow
at 9:30, I can't wait...




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Re: Re: Synology DS1010+
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Wed Sep 01 2021 08:14 am

Ultimately, that's my plan - once I get rid of the flakey powerline adapters I'm running on now, and have gig ethernet running to my home lab. Tomorrow at 9:30, I can't wait...

Responding to myself again.

$300 to have the cabling guys run 2 CAT6 cables from a keystone jack in my office down to the cable modem. They cleaned up things, routed the cable through the wall and put the cable TV cable and 2 RJ45s into the wall.

My office internet has gone from 40 mbps up to 475 - and now since I'm running hard-wired, I can look into moving the BBS onto my Proxmox server. The BBS is currently running in my storage space on another powerline adapter.

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On 8/29/2021 9:56 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I went to my local electronics thrift shop looking for a new stereo
receiver, and on a whim picked up a Synology DS1010+ for $110.

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THESE THINGS?

I have an old DS409+ that I've had for well over a decade. Bought a
DS1621+ this past December, drooped an nvme cache drive and upped the
ram to 32gb and it runs really well. Runs everything that I would need,
though a k3s or docker swarm target would be nice. Plex server crashes,
but I don't really use it, my fiance does for her fire stick.

I have two ethernet channels bonded (1gb), if I upgrade to a 2.5 or 10g switch, will do all 4, right now it's maxing out at the network speed.
I've actually been considering bumping to a 2.5g switch as copying
larger files (video) just feels slow...
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Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I have an old DS409+ that I've had for well over a decade. Bought a DS1621+ this past December, drooped an nvme cache drive and upped the
ram to 32gb and it runs really well. Runs everything that I would need, though a k3s or docker swarm target would be nice. Plex server
crashes, but I don't really use it, my fiance does for her fire stick.

Yeah, the DS1010+ sounds like it's a generation or two behind, but AI was
able to upgrade it to DSM6, which gets a more featureful shell environment, and it's got a ton of things to play with.

I've bonded 2 gig Ethernets using their basic link aggregation, am going to play with 802.3ad some time in the future.

As a docker host, I'm not sure how well it'll do (it's a celeron with 3 GB
of RAM) but I have a Proxmox guest for Docker (and proxmox supports LXC natively)

With all of my old 2TB drives in it, I've got 7.2 GB of SHR raid to play
with.

All in all, it's a great toy to expand my homelab and keep me learning.




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