• The Fall of Afghanistan

    From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to All on Sunday, August 15, 2021 13:54:42
    I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

    Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as reported by the CNN.

    Let the thread begin.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Sunday, August 15, 2021 17:09:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 15.08.21 - 13:54, Arelor wrote to All:

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse
    officially, as reported by the CNN.

    Who is supplying the Taliban with munitions? China?

    I wouldn't doubt that China is poised to promise the Taliban to
    restore and build infrastucture. Then, the Taliban will default
    and China will move in. Russia will be pleased with the result
    too.

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  • From Ksource@VERT/MUTINY to Arelor on Monday, August 16, 2021 01:38:02
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 13:54:42

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as reported by the CNN.

    Link?

    I haven't been following it closely, and last I heard it wasn't crystal clear who was supporting the New Taliban. China wouldn't surprise me much, though.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Arelor on Monday, August 16, 2021 07:41:44
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 01:54 pm

    I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

    Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

    As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less what happens to that country.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ksource on Monday, August 16, 2021 06:54:02
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Ksource to Arelor on Mon Aug 16 2021 01:38 am

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 13:54:42

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as repor by the CNN.

    Link?

    I haven't been following it closely, and last I heard it wasn't crystal clea who was supporting the New Taliban. China wouldn't surprise me much, though.


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/china/china-taliban-tianjin-afghanistan-intl-hnk /index.html

    "Chinese officials and Taliban meet in Tianjin as US exits Afghanistan", July 29th.

    "China's Foreign Minister met with senior leaders of the Taliban in the northern Chinese city of Tianjin on Wednesday in the latest sign of warming ties between Beijing and the resurgent Islamist group."

    "Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi described the Taliban as an important military and political force in Afghanistan, and said he expected the Taliban to play an important role in the country's "peace, reconciliation and reconstruction proc."

    "Beijing has invested heavily in Central Asia in recent years through its Belt and Road trade and infrastructure scheme, and China's Foreign Ministry has previously discussed the possibility of extending the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) into Afghanistan. "

    "the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Monday, August 16, 2021 11:18:00
    As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less what happ
    ens to that country.

    They are not out yet. There was no plan in place for pulling non-military people out. Yesterday, US embassy officials were leaving much like they left Saigon in the 1970's... by a helecopter on the roof.

    Last report is that the Kabul airport is still full of US embassy officials
    and others who need to be evacuated. Meanwhile, we are having to send
    about 6000 troops BACK to assist.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Monday, August 16, 2021 11:26:00
    "the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early
    July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

    Considering what China is doing to their native followers of Islam, the
    Taliban had best watch their backs.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Monday, August 16, 2021 21:09:00
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Mon Aug 16 2021 07:41 am

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 01:54 pm

    I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

    Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

    As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less what happens to that country.

    that's how the usa felt about hilter until shit got out of control and we joined the war effort later.

    the usa helped create the situation in afghanistan. it's a bit shit show.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, August 16, 2021 21:10:13
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Mon Aug 16 2021 11:26 am

    "the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early
    July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

    Considering what China is doing to their native followers of Islam, the Taliban had best watch their backs.




    they dont care about their religion if they arent on chinese soil and living there.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 07:46:39
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: MRO to HusTler on Mon Aug 16 2021 09:09 pm

    Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given
    the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the
    taliban.

    As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less
    what happens to that country.

    that's how the usa felt about hilter until shit got out of control and we joined the war effort later.

    the usa helped create the situation in afghanistan. it's a bit shit show. ---

    The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want to fight for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that. Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 08:58:07
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Aug 17 2021 07:46 am

    that's how the usa felt about hilter until shit got out of control and we joined the war effort later.

    the usa helped create the situation in afghanistan. it's a bit shit show. ---

    The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want to fight for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that. Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

    the world didnt team up against hitler until quite a time passed when they allowed other coutnries to fight for themselves. he then grew bigger and went after other countries.

    meanwhile, many lives were lost.

    afghans cant fight for their country. they're weak.

    we should we get the fuck out? i say we go in and take the whole fucker
    over and make it another state.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 15:39:23
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: MRO to HusTler on Tue Aug 17 2021 08:58 am

    we should we get the fuck out? i say we go in and take the whole fucker over and make it another state.

    I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants? These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I rather make sure they stay there. I've always felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to get the hell out once and for all.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 15:43:00
    "the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early
    July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

    Considering what China is doing to their native followers of Islam, the Taliban had best watch their backs.

    they dont care about their religion if they arent on chinese soil and living t
    re.

    That is true for now. What happens when China decides they want their soil?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 16:23:00
    The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want to figh
    for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that
    Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

    Towards the end of this article, it explains one reason the Afghans didn't
    want to fight without US assistance... because they knew the Taliban had
    plenty of assistance from other countries in the region, and because there
    are not really 300K troops, like Biden claimed.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/politics/biden-afghanistan-blame-shifting


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 21:50:25
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Aug 17 2021 03:39 pm

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: MRO to HusTler on Tue Aug 17 2021 08:58 am

    we should we get the fuck out? i say we go in and take the whole fucker over and make it another state.

    I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants?

    they have a lot of natural resources. that's why china is getting involved.
    we could stabilize the region, also.

    These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I

    that's easier said than done. we dont live in that climate.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 21:50:58
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Aug 17 2021 03:43 pm

    they dont care about their religion if they arent on chinese soil and living t
    re.

    That is true for now. What happens when China decides they want their soil?


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HUSTLER on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 08:14:00
    Quoting Hustler to Mro <=-

    The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want
    to fight for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that. Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

    Ya, but we should have lead a more orderly retreat, taken with us the
    people who have helped us, and not left all that nice, modern equipment
    for the Taliban.

    Leaving was the right thing to do. But, as usual, the Democrats
    completely messed it up.


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  • From plt@VERT to HusTler on Friday, August 27, 2021 02:53:00
    HusTler wrote to MRO <=-

    I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants? These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I rather make sure they stay there. I've always felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to get the hell out once
    and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to HusTler on Friday, August 27, 2021 02:53:00
    HusTler wrote to MRO <=-

    I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants? These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I rather make sure they stay there. I've always felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to get the hell out once
    and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Arelor on Friday, August 27, 2021 15:10:46
    I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

    Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as reported by the CNN.

    Let the thread begin.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to plt on Friday, August 27, 2021 16:11:27
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

    felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
    the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
    get the hell out once and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.

    Now the generals are crying how it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

    HusTler

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to plt on Friday, August 27, 2021 16:15:57
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

    felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
    the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
    get the hell out once and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.

    Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

    HusTler

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to plt on Friday, August 27, 2021 16:16:40
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

    felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
    the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
    get the hell out once and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.

    Now the generals are crying how it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to HusTler on Friday, August 27, 2021 22:21:00
    HusTler wrote to plt <=-

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

    felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
    the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
    get the hell out once and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.

    Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting down
    the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be
    there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have
    to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest
    of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years.
    When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the
    other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree
    these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

    It's a war that is not worth fighting and is not worth fighting. If Bush had the fighters on standby when 9-11 happened it's possible that 9-11 could have been prevented.

    One thing it's not going to get any better until this system of things come to a end.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Friday, August 27, 2021 21:24:00
    HusTler wrote to plt <=-

    Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting
    down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want
    to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now
    they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something
    just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed
    services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is
    driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel
    bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although
    anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will
    just just have to blow up some other country and start another
    "conflict". That's America's MO.

    You may actually be dumber than "MRO". Too close to call.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Saturday, August 28, 2021 08:19:09
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: HusTler to plt on Fri Aug 27 2021 04:11 pm

    the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
    get the hell out once and for all.

    You mean the never ending war.

    Now the generals are crying how it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college

    it's important to keep that area under control. you should see this.

    "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.


    my uncle was a master electrician and he had problems finding work when he got out. the economy was bad, the companies werent paying much or even hiring people at that time.

    you arent promised a job with a college degree. on indeed there are jobs that want people with BA degrees that are paying 19 bucks an hr. that's bullshit.

    regarding anybody can earn a college degree these days, maybe they can with a shit load of debt. i couldn't go back to college right now because i work full time. i tried to do it and i couldnt get the classes i wanted, and the ones i could attend were all over the time of day. no way could i work and go to college at the same time.

    furthermore, i work with a bunch of college kids. a few of them are chemists. we make the same money and one of them i make 2 bucks more an hour.

    anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

    you have zero understanding of foreign policy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Saturday, August 28, 2021 08:20:56
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 10:21 pm

    It's a war that is not worth fighting and is not worth fighting. If Bush had the fighters on standby when 9-11 happened it's possible that 9-11 could have been prevented.

    One thing it's not going to get any better until this system of things come to a end.


    fighters ARE on standby.

    several people dropped the ball.

    it wasnt bush.
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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Sunday, August 29, 2021 16:26:00
    MRO wrote to plt <=-

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 01:05 am


    it wasnt bush.

    Who was ever in office at the time the commander and chief shall have control of the militry at all times. Like Trump tried to screw over the U.S Federal Government Employees by removing their protection. But he lost in court when AFGE sued his administration.


    you seem to be taking the stupid way out. you picked a side and blame
    the other guy for everything.

    I do not pick sides. The fact remains if the commander and chief was doing his job during 9-11 it would have never happened. One of the issue when Trump tried change the regulations to make it easer to fire federal employees he lost in court against the union AFGE. The rules and regulations have been in place to deal with poor perfomers, but Trump could see the truth in the matter. I worked for DHS, so I have seens some cases and read them during the appeal process.


    now you are all over the place.

    Yes, But I making my point of what I am telling is the truth.

    you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps
    and unions. ---

    Who is the commander in chief back there is responsibility to run and hold the military accountable at all times.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to plt on Monday, August 30, 2021 06:51:06
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 08:08 pm




    put down the crack pipe, dude.


    You like the GOP ways of no accountability? Maybe you should do more reading before you post.


    i'm not talking about the gop
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to plt on Monday, August 30, 2021 08:30:00
    plt wrote to MRO <=-

    You like the GOP ways of no accountability? Maybe you should do more reading before you post.

    Hilary's emails and Bengazi.

    What was that about GOP "ways of no accountability"?

    The Left never get punished for their crimes, yet anyone else who does the same thing (or less) gets punished to the fullest extent of the law.

    Case in Point: Dinesh D'Souza's campaign finance violation.


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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to MRO on Monday, August 30, 2021 10:36:04
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:38:00

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:26 pm

    have been in place to deal with poor perfomers, but Trump could see the truth in the matter. I worked for DHS, so I have
    seens
    some cases and read them during the appeal process.


    now you are all over the place.

    Yes, But I making my point of what I am telling is the truth.


    what?

    you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps and unions. ---

    Who is the commander in chief back there is responsibility to run and hold the military accountable at all times.




    put down the crack pipe, dude.


    You have no clue on what your saying.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Ogg on Sunday, September 12, 2021 21:37:57
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Aug 15 2021 05:09 pm

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse
    officially, as reported by the CNN.

    Who is supplying the Taliban with munitions? China?

    Biden made sure he left the Taliban 800 billion in weapons, ammo, jets, cargo planes and helicopters and much much more, so yeah because of sleepy creepy clown Joe Biden, we the taxpayers have equiped the terrorist Taliban.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Monday, September 13, 2021 03:31:25
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Denn to Ogg on Sun Sep 12 2021 09:37 pm

    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Aug 15 2021 05:09 pm

    The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse
    officially, as reported by the CNN.

    Who is supplying the Taliban with munitions? China?

    Biden made sure he left the Taliban 800 billion in weapons, ammo, jets, cargo planes and helicopters and much much more, so yeah because of sleepy creepy clown Joe Biden, we the taxpayers have equiped the terrorist Taliban.
    build back better. he just didnt say for who.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Monday, September 13, 2021 12:29:19
    Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
    By: MRO to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 03:31 am

    Biden made sure he left the Taliban 800 billion in weapons, ammo,
    jets, cargo planes and helicopters and much much more, so yeah because
    of sleepy creepy clown Joe Biden, we the taxpayers have equiped the
    terrorist Taliban.
    build back better. he just didnt say for who.

    True lol

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