Have you Biden supporters not opened your eyes yet??!!

Seriously why do you think they are trying to "impeach" & inact the 25th amendment 9 days before the inauguration of "YOUR PRESIDENT"??!! Do y'all
not realize they are scared of the evidence he has and they want him out of office ASAP but if it was such a "fair election" and Biden clearly won, why would they need to be scared?? Hmm

Of all the videos of evidence showing cops letting in the trump supporters and clearly antifa staged in photos by photographers that just happened to be there "breaching the capitol as y'all say", they were let in, they even picked
up their trash before they walked out in an orderly fashion, mind you they looked like they were in a formal line in a museum­­­

Oh that's right I forget there was TONS of voter fraud evidence as well and y'all clearly didn't see that either because it doesn't fit the narrative
you have been taught to see/think watching the mainstream media.

I'm pretty sure for the last 4 years y'all have been rioting/killing/burning/looting since President Trump was in there but yet a peaceful protest walking through the capitol is just terrible and My President immediately condemned what was going on, I'm pretty sure the democrats were okay with everything that was going on the last 4 years never condemning the violence!

Difference between you and I is I want my kids to grow up in a free country and if they can clearly shutdown free speech, banning THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES what else can they do!!

See the bigger picture, open your eyes and stay WOKE to the truth!! This
isn't about republicans vs Democrats this is about our FREEDOM and what kind
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Re: President.
By: Melkor to All on Tue Jan 12 2021 01:37 am

here we go. I was waiting for one of yous to come crawling out of the woodwork to support an attempted coup on our country.

Have you Biden supporters not opened your eyes yet??!!

The same could be said for you.

Seriously why do you think they are trying to "impeach" & inact the 25th amendment 9 days before the inauguration of "YOUR PRESIDENT"??!! Do y'all not realize they are scared of the evidence he has and they want him out of office ASAP but if it was such a "fair election" and Biden clearly won, why would they need to be scared?? Hmm

They're trying to get Trump out of office for multiple reasons.

1. He encouraged a bunch of armed insurrectionists to riot and storm the United States Capitol building to try and stop the count and certification of electoral votes by the legislature. They killed a police officer (The party of "law & order" that "supports police"!) and trampled on of their own to death (while he was carrying a "don't tread on me" flag). Those rioters erected a makeshift gallows outside the Capitol, and were heard shouting "Hang Mike Pence"

2. He's unstable, and he's gotten far more unstable since the election. We're genuinely concerned that he may try and do something stupid with the power given to his office.

It's quite unlikely he'll get impeached before his term is up. However, impeachment, even after his term is over will prevent him from running for/holding any public office ever again, it'll take away his $200K yearly pension, and $1,000,000 in travel expenses each year, as well as strip him of his security detail.
Personally I'm not thrilled with the security detail thing, but it is what it is, and Trump is rich enough to afford his own damn security.

The evidence is mounting, he encouraged the coup. When it started he could have tried to call them off, but he didn't. When he finally did make a feeble attempt at trying to get them to stop, he told a violent mob of cop-killing rioters that he "loves" them.

Of all the videos of evidence showing cops letting in the trump supporters and clearly antifa staged in photos by photographers that just happened to be there "breaching the capitol as y'all say", they were let in, they even picked up their trash before they walked out in an orderly fashion, mind you they looked like they were in a formal line in a museum­­­

Are you fucking kidding me? Have you seen the pictures of what the Capitol building looked like after they left? Someone spread shit on the walls, offices were trashed. equipment such as laptops, binders and even a damn lectern were stolen. cameras, lights and equipment belonging to the media was smashed and stolen. Windows were smashed, chairs and desks overturned... it was a mess.

There's video of some police officers just letting the mob in, of an officer taking selfies with them, and then officers that just held the door when it was past the mob's bedtime and they decided to go home.

I don't know how anyone can claim that any of those people were Antifa
1. none of them were wearing masks. Masks are Antifa rule #1, even before Covid.
2. Why the fuck would Antifa storm the capitol to stop the counting of votes for THEIR GUY?
3. Hundreds of people have been matched up with pictures online of them spouting their love for Trump, with pictures of them at Trump rallies, wearing Trump hats, etc.

Oh that's right I forget there was TONS of voter fraud evidence as well and y'all clearly didn't see that either because it doesn't fit the narrative you have been taught to see/think watching the mainstream media.

I have yet to see any of that voter fraud evidence. All I see is people yelling that it exists, because their god-emperor, Trump, said it does.

I'm pretty sure for the last 4 years y'all have been rioting/killing/burning/looting since President Trump was in there but yet a peaceful protest walking through the capitol is just terrible and My President immediately condemned what was going on, I'm pretty sure the democrats were okay with everything that was going on the last 4 years never condemning the violence!

It's not even remotely the same. And people don't die during peaceful protests.

Difference between you and I is I want my kids to grow up in a free country and if they can clearly shutdown free speech, banning THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES what else can they do!!

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Trump is a victim of capitalism. Companies decided it's better for their bottom line to ban the President and his supporters from their platform.

Pretend Twitter is a mom & pop bakery, and Trump is a gay wedding cake if it makes you feel better.

See the bigger picture, open your eyes and stay WOKE to the truth!! This isn't about republicans vs Democrats this is about our FREEDOM and what kind of world we want our children to grow up in!!

I'd like my neices to grow up in a world where we listen to scientists, where everyone is treated the same (could you imagine what would have happened at the Capitol if it was BLM doing that?!), and people aren't stupid enough to believe everything a reality TV star tells them, especially to the point where they attempt a fucking coup against our government.

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Re: President.
By: Melkor to All on Tue Jan 12 2021 01:37 am

Have you Biden supporters not opened your eyes yet??!!

My eyes have been open for a very long time. Whether we look at the past four years or the past thirty, they've been open.

Seriously why do you think they are trying to "impeach" & inact the 25th amendment 9 days before the inauguration of "YOUR PRESIDENT"??!! Do y'all not realize they are scared of the evidence he has and they want him out of office ASAP but if it was such a "fair election" and Biden clearly won, why would they need to be scared?? Hmm

Whether or not it was nine days, fifty days, or two hundred days before an inauguration, the reality remains that Donald Trump did incite violence upon the Capitol and those working in it including the Vice President, Speaker of the House, and the Majority Leader of the Senate. This wasn't about being a Repubican or Democrat, it was about a violent insurrection against our government for not supporting the lies of Trump and his followers.

The election was fair, free, and accurately counted. If Donald Trump had a modicum of evidence to support the claims he's made, they should've been made known all the way to the United States Supreme Court. Withholding the evidence, whether for politican gain or favor, is irrelevant. Donald Trump saying, "I've got all the evidence. The election was stolen and I am your President," and not questioning those words, is believing without evidence, which was exactly what was provided to the courts.

Of all the videos of evidence showing cops letting in the trump supporters and clearly antifa staged in photos by photographers that just happened to be there "breaching the capitol as y'all say", they were let in, they even picked up their trash before they walked out in an orderly fashion, mind
you they looked like they were in a formal line in a museum­­­

Where did all this information come from? Not a shred of evidence exists that ANTIFA was there or did anything at the Capitol. Capitol Police did let the rioters in, which shows that they were in on the insurrection. Those officers were recently arrested and charged with federal crimes. Again, I ask for evidence.

Oh that's right I forget there was TONS of voter fraud evidence as well and y'all clearly didn't see that either because it doesn't fit the narrative you have been taught to see/think watching the mainstream media.

Donald Trump forced the narrative that mail-in ballots are fraudulent even though a number of states use them in all elections as well as the military for those whose base is out of their home state or overseas. The narrative is false. Voter fraud is infinitesimally small. According to an MIT study covering 20 years of elections, they found it occurred in 0.00006% of instances nationally. Trump's narrative created doubt amongst his supporters, primarily, and his corruptable base. His Congressional supporters fear for their lives as well as their families if they go against the narrative--hence why they keep validating his story.

I'm pretty sure for the last 4 years y'all have been rioting/killing/burning/looting since President Trump was in there but yet a peaceful protest walking through the capitol is just terrible and My President immediately condemned what was going on, I'm pretty sure the democrats were okay with everything that was going on the last 4 years never condemning the violence!

The unathorized access to the Capitol is against the law. The majority of rioting, killing, burning, and looting were primarily supporters of Trump. There is always a bad seed in every group, whether BLM, "ANTIFA", etc., but the truth is that the majority of crimes against people and property were found to be Trump supporters and not other groups.

Difference between you and I is I want my kids to grow up in a free country and if they can clearly shutdown free speech, banning THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES what else can they do!!

Donald Trump wants his speech to be free but he wants anyone else that goes against what he says to be quieted. Tell me how this is any different. The minute someone talks negative about Trump, he yells "Fake News". The reality is free speech is our right, but when you use a service such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or any media outlet, they have the right to refuse service to anyone.

See the bigger picture, open your eyes and stay WOKE to the truth!! This isn't about republicans vs Democrats this is about our FREEDOM and what kind of world we want our children to grow up in!!

My children are growing up just fine. They all can think for themselves, are open to varying opinions, and understand how to research information they find on the news. They question everything, gather the data, and make informed decisions.

I wish you the best!

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Re: President.
By: Melkor to All on Tue Jan 12 2021 01:37 am

Seriously why do you think they are trying to "impeach" & inact the 25th amendment 9 days before the inauguration of "YOUR PRESIDENT"??!! Do y'all not realize they are scared of the evidence he has and they want him out of office ASAP but if it was such a "fair election" and Biden clearly won, why would they need to be scared?? Hmm

Because of his crimes, which are clear.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: President.
By: Melkor to All on Tue Jan 12 2021 01:37 am

I must agree that, according to my hunch, the reason why they want to impeach Trump before inauguration is because they need to
kick him out asap.


Such hurries are not natural. After more than 1400 days, they are in a rush to push him over in the last 7?

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Re: President.
By: DaiTengu to Melkor on Mon Jan 11 2021 09:40 pm

1. He encouraged a bunch of armed insurrectionists to riot and storm the United States Capitol building to try and stop the

I keep hearing this but so far I have no found any Trump message that told people to go burn the Capitol and murder the cops,
unless you really want to read between lines that are not there and really want to interpretate them in weird ways.

I think it is twisted to accuse somebody of organizing an armed uprising and then ban him from social media when his lasts
social media entries read like: "Go home in peace" and "Cooperate with the cops".

As a resident in a country that has had its share of coups, when you are in power, you don't use use protestors for a coup.
You go full Tejero and roll in with the Tanks.


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DaiTengu wrote to Melkor <=-

1. He encouraged a bunch of armed insurrectionists to riot and
storm the United States Capitol building

He did, really? Would you mind quoting the *EXACT* thing(s) he said
regarding that? Please note the words EXACT and QUOTE. Also, on what
medium (channel/outlet/whatever) did he do this?

Please be specific and concise. No opinion/interpretation needed,
just the facts. Thanks.







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Re: President.
By: Arelor to Melkor on Tue Jan 12 2021 04:49 am

Re: President.
By: Melkor to All on Tue Jan 12 2021 01:37 am

I must agree that, according to my hunch, the reason why they want to impeach Trump before inauguration is because they need to kick him out asap.

Such hurries are not natural. After more than 1400 days, they are in a rush to push him over in the last 7?

i think they want to make it so he cant get elected again. and also he loses his protection and other benefits.
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I must agree that, according to my hunch, the reason why they want to impeach ump before inauguration is because they need to
kick him out asap.

They need to make sure he cannot run again.

Such hurries are not natural. After more than 1400 days, they are in a rush to
ush him over in the last 7?

They know it will just cause more unrest vs. allowing him to just complete
his term under social media censor.


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I keep hearing this but so far I have no found any Trump message that told peo
e to go burn the Capitol and murder the cops,
unless you really want to read between lines that are not there and really wan
to interpretate them in weird ways.

He told people to protest peacefully which, in left english, means go out
and destroy stuff.


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Melkor wrote to All <=-

See the bigger picture, open your eyes and stay WOKE to the truth!!
This isn't about republicans vs Democrats this is about our FREEDOM and what kind of world we want our children to grow up in!!

They can't see.

They've been miseducated by a Leftie education system all their lives.
They actually think that socialism works - despite history saying otherwise. They are taught to blindly follow their "leaders" words without question because they don't want to think for themselves. They just want someone
to tell them what to do - for their own good.


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DaiTengu wrote to Melkor <=-

They're trying to get Trump out of office for multiple reasons.

1. He encouraged a bunch of armed insurrectionists to riot and storm
the United States Capitol building to try and stop the count and certification of electoral votes by the legislature.

No he didn't.

2. He's unstable

Wow. You elected Biden/Harris and you call Trump "unstable".

I guess "black" is "white" in your fantasy world.

It's quite unlikely he'll get impeached before his term is up. However, impeachment, even after his term is over will prevent him from running for/holding any public office ever again

Ahhh... A piece of truth from the Left. Now we see the *real* reason
behind the impeachment.

The evidence is mounting, he encouraged the coup.

The only "evidence" is Leftie mouthpieces making stories up.

Are you fucking kidding me? Have you seen the pictures of what the
Capitol building looked like after they left? Someone spread shit on
the walls, offices were trashed. equipment such as laptops, binders and even a damn lectern were stolen. cameras, lights and equipment
belonging to the media was smashed and stolen. Windows were smashed, chairs and desks overturned... it was a mess.

Jees, sounds just like the places where Antifa rioted. I wonder if there's some connection?

I don't know how anyone can claim that any of those people were Antifa

Because we aren't brainwashed sheep like you.

1. none of them were wearing masks. Masks are Antifa rule #1, even
before Covid.

*Laugh* You really don't get out much do you?

2. Why the fuck would Antifa storm the capitol to stop
the counting of votes for THEIR GUY?

You really need to reference "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky.

Are you telling me that you really don't know your own Leftie playbook?

3. Hundreds of people have been
matched up with pictures online of them spouting their love for Trump, with pictures of them at Trump rallies, wearing Trump hats, etc.

Last time I checked, you can get that stuff anywhere for cheap.

Again, read your own Leftie Playbook.

I have yet to see any of that voter fraud evidence.

That's because your eyes and brain is closed to anything beyond your
false Leftie Narrative.

It's not even remotely the same. And people don't die during peaceful protests.

You obviously have only watched CNN during the riots all summer. Get the
facts before you bother posting.

Trump is a victim of capitalism. Companies decided it's better for
their bottom line to ban the President and his supporters from their platform.

And you have just admitted that the Left is the party of Corporate Elites.


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Dream Master wrote to Melkor <=-

My eyes have been open for a very long time. Whether we look at the
past four years or the past thirty, they've been open.

The election was fair, free, and accurately counted.

You have contridicted yourself.


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Al wrote to Melkor <=-

Because of his crimes, which are clear.

Then you should be able to list Trump's crimes - at least some of them.

And if you have such evidence, it would have been nice to bring it before
a judge and have him rule on it.

But the only thing we have heard from your Lefties is that "Trump commited crimes" - with no details, no evidence, no court cases, etc.

The old saying "If you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth" only works when people are dumb enough to believe the lie.


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Re: Re: President.
By: Dr. What to Al on Wed Jan 13 2021 09:58 am

Because of his crimes, which are clear.

Then you should be able to list Trump's crimes - at least some of them.

I already stated the crime but I'll do it again for your benefit.

He incited an insurrection, and then his followers carried out that insurrection.

It wasn't only Donald Trump who incited that insurrection. Don Jr. participated also, along with Rudy Giuliani who called for trial by combat.

He has carried on with his numerous lies like "I won the election, by a lot" that serves no purpose other that to stir up his base.

Lies and conspiracy theories will accomplish nothing.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: President.
By: Al to Dr. What on Wed Jan 13 2021 11:44 am

I already stated the crime but I'll do it again for your benefit.

He incited an insurrection, and then his followers carried out that insurrection.

I think it has pretty much being established that this is not the case, unless you are trying very hard to read between lines that are not there.

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Re: Re: President.
By: Dr. What to Melkor on Wed Jan 13 2021 09:47 am

They've been miseducated by a Leftie education system all their lives.
They actually think that socialism works - despite history saying otherwise. They are taught to blindly follow their "leaders" words without question because they don't want to think for themselves. They just want someone
to tell them what to do - for their own good.

There is a difference between Democratic Socialism and traditional Socialism. The minute anyone hears socialism, heads turn, and the fear rolls in. How about this...

Give up your Social Security Benefits
Give up your Unemployment Benefits
Give up your Medicare Benefits
Give up your Employment Protections (OSHA, EEOC, etc.)

Socialism isn't black and white, there are many gray areas. Making blanket statements that socialism is wrong is too broad. I would rather be protected when I retire, with good benefits, healthcare, and income, rather than needing to be on the street.

But hey, this is all a "leftie" thing.

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Re: Re: President.
By: Dr. What to Dream Master on Wed Jan 13 2021 09:56 am

You have contridicted yourself.

I am well educated and exceptionally intelligent to do that.

Sorry.

Dream Master

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Re: Re: President.
By: Dream Master to Dr. What on Wed Jan 13 2021 02:25 pm

The minute anyone hears socialism, heads turn, and the fear rolls in. How about this...

Give up your Social Security Benefits
Give up your Unemployment Benefits
Give up your Medicare Benefits
Give up your Employment Protections (OSHA, EEOC, etc.)

The ones in power would not let you try so because they need you to be part of it. Otherwise they lose power over you.

Varians of this discussion are common. If they allowed people to opt out The System would be unsustainable because the sort of people who would rather be part of it lacks the ability to sustain it without forcing everybody else to be in the same ship.

For the record, while I was sent to COVID-enforced unemployment I got no Social Security or Unemployment funds or anything for months. I only started getting money back when I was already working again, despite the fact I have been supporting employment protection messures for years.

Turns out the government was smoking the money or something.

It really puts things into perspective when you have been paying for gov protection and you get crap instead.

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Re: Re: President.
By: Arelor to Al on Wed Jan 13 2021 03:59 pm

He incited an insurrection, and then his followers carried out that
insurrection.

I think it has pretty much being established that this is not the case,

Huh? By who?

unless you are trying very hard to read between lines that are not there.

It all happened out in the open so there is no need to read between the lines.

Ttyl :-),
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1. none of them were wearing masks. Masks are Antifa rule #1, even
before Covid.

Actually, some of them were wearing the masks and gear that are often seen
in pictures of Antifa action. You are correct, though, most seemed not to
be. Viking Man seemed not be wearing much of anything.


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Dr. What wrote to Dream Master <=-

Dream Master wrote to Melkor <=-

My eyes have been open for a very long time. Whether we look at the
past four years or the past thirty, they've been open.

The election was fair, free, and accurately counted.

You have contridicted yourself.

Wait, didn't the lefties and anti-Trumpers all make claims the election was rigged, Russian collusion interference and all that? I remember many claiming back in 2016 that it was rigged. Claims about the machines counting votes wrong and outright fraud.

I DONT recall Twitter caring about correcting such claims.

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Re: Re: President.
By: Arelor to Dream Master on Wed Jan 13 2021 05:53 pm

For the record, while I was sent to COVID-enforced unemployment I got no Social Security or Unemployment funds or anything for months. I only started getting money back when I was already working again, despite the fact I have been supporting employment protection messures for years.

This is simply unacceptable. The government failed its citizens; focusing only on bailing out businesses and not helping its citizens.

Turns out the government was smoking the money or something.

Without a doubt I agree with you. Again, our government focuses more on helping businesses and foreign countries rather than its own citizens.

It really puts things into perspective when you have been paying for gov protection and you get crap instead.

It is inexcusable that the government didn't increase benefits at the 2 to $3K level throughout the pandemic-forced unemployment. The idea that the initial $1200 payment and then the end of the year $600 was sufficient (which was just a stimulus, not for unemployment), is ridiculous.

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Give up your Social Security Benefits

Which you pay into separately from your taxes. Otherwise, you are
usually NOT qualified to collect it, unless you are an illegal alien or
someone else who is on the lucky-list that certain politicians have added to over the years.

Give up your Unemployment Benefits

They have made some exceptions due to COVID, but you benefit from this if you have paid into it separately from your taxes or you are not qualified to collect it.

Give up your Medicare Benefits

OK there is one that could be considered socialism.

Give up your Employment Protections (OSHA, EEOC, etc.)

That isn't socialism, unless you believe that only socialist want to offer
such protections.


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Wait, didn't the lefties and anti-Trumpers all make claims the election was rigged, Russian collusion interference and all that? I remember many claimin
back in 2016 that it was rigged. Claims about the machines counting votes wrong and outright fraud.

I DONT recall Twitter caring about correcting such claims.

Nancy Pelosi herself tweeted something just like that in 2017. No fact checking or anything was applied to her tweet.

"The 2016 election results were not valid and the election was stolen!" = OK

"Go out and physically harrass Trump supporters!" = OK

Post a picture holding Trump's severed head, or backhandedly suggest it
would be good if someone killed him = OK (if you are a Hollywood celeb)

"The 2020 election results were not valid and the election was stolen!" =
social media jail or ban

There is no denying that social media, like the actual media, has an
incredible bias.


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Dumas Walker wrote to BORAXMAN <=-

Wait, didn't the lefties and anti-Trumpers all make claims the election was rigged, Russian collusion interference and all that? I remember many

claimin

back in 2016 that it was rigged. Claims about the machines counting votes wrong and outright fraud.

I DONT recall Twitter caring about correcting such claims.

Nancy Pelosi herself tweeted something just like that in 2017. No fact checking or anything was applied to her tweet.

"The 2016 election results were not valid and the election was stolen!"
= OK

"Go out and physically harrass Trump supporters!" = OK

Post a picture holding Trump's severed head, or backhandedly suggest it would be good if someone killed him = OK (if you are a Hollywood celeb)

"The 2020 election results were not valid and the election was stolen!"
=
social media jail or ban

There is no denying that social media, like the actual media, has an incredible bias.

It's not a bias. It is an established elite that are seeking to obtain a peudo-fascistic power hold. They are self-serving, and deliberatly lying, misleading and censoring to control you. They will destroy people, tear the country apart and see themselves as better than you, knowing more than you, more moral than you, and therefore should rightfully dicate your life. Democracy, free speech, the ability to elect a "populist" or even just select an alternative upsets that, and they want to shut these options out from you, forever.

"Bias" implies it some subconsious mistake they are not realising they are making. No, these actions are deliberate. They may be mistaken as to WHY they are doing it, but the outcome is indeed intended.


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Al wrote to Dr. What <=-

I already stated the crime but I'll do it again for your benefit.

He incited an insurrection, and then his followers carried out that insurrection.

Leftie delusion is not a crime. I actually listened to his words. Did you? No. You listened to your Leftie handlers who told you what to think.

There was nothing in Trump's speech about incurrection or even hinting at
it. That's probably the main reason he was banned from social media: The Left wanted to use that as an excuse and didn't want the facts to come out too quickly.

Of course, the Lefties will tout out their "dog whistle" BS as though there
was a secret message in Trump's speech that only his followers could hear.

I thought that TDS was only an American thing.


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There is a difference between Democratic Socialism and traditional Socialism.

No, there isn't. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron.


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Boraxman wrote to Dr. What <=-

Wait, didn't the lefties and anti-Trumpers all make claims the election was rigged, Russian collusion interference and all that? I remember
many claiming back in 2016 that it was rigged. Claims about the
machines counting votes wrong and outright fraud.

I DONT recall Twitter caring about correcting such claims.

And then there's all the Leftie threats and such that Twitter never seems to
do anything about.

It's painfully clear that all Lefties are "Rules for thee, but not for me."


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Dumas Walker wrote to BORAXMAN <=-

There is no denying that social media, like the actual media, has an incredible bias.

It's not "social media" anymore. It's "socialist media".


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Re: Re: President.
By: Dr. What to Al on Fri Jan 15 2021 08:56 am

Leftie delusion is not a crime. I actually listened to his words. Did you?

Yes. Don Jr and Rudy also. It was quite a show.

There was nothing in Trump's speech about incurrection or even hinting at it. That's probably the main reason he was banned from social media: The Left wanted to use that as an excuse and didn't want the facts to come out too quickly.

Trump was, and has been inciting for some time.

You seem like an intelligent person, I think you know that.

I thought that TDS was only an American thing.

Yes, it is affecting Trump supporters badly these days.

Ttyl :-),
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"Bias" implies it some subconsious mistake they are not realising they are making. No, these actions are deliberate. They may be mistaken as to WHY the
are doing it, but the outcome is indeed intended.

Using this definition of "bias," I agree with you. In rare cases, it might
be subconsious in nature but overall I doubt it. It is deliberate, as you
say.


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Without a doubt I agree with you. Again, our government focuses more on helpi
businesses and foreign countries rather than its own citizens.

They sure as Hell do.


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I thought that TDS was only an American thing.

Nope Al has it pretty bad.


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Boraxman wrote to Dr. What <=-

Wait, didn't the lefties and anti-Trumpers all make claims the election was rigged, Russian collusion interference and all that? I remember
many claiming back in 2016 that it was rigged. Claims about the
machines counting votes wrong and outright fraud.

I DONT recall Twitter caring about correcting such claims.

And then there's all the Leftie threats and such that Twitter never
seems to do anything about.

It's painfully clear that all Lefties are "Rules for thee, but not for me."

Right Winger expressing opinion = Call to violence/terrorism
Left Winger expressing opinion = Fight for justice.

Same old same old. "Freedom fighter" vs "Terrorist". "Fighter for Social Change" vs "Insurrectionist/Terrorist".



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Right Winger expressing opinion = Call to violence/terrorism
Left Winger expressing opinion = Fight for justice.

Same old same old. "Freedom fighter" vs "Terrorist". "Fighter for Social Change" vs "Insurrectionist/Terrorist".

A former co-worker, on FB, brought up the recent issues in DC and that
there should be criminal charges filed. I agreed, but made the "mistake"
of including that it was (paraphrasing) "just as wrong as what happened
in Portland throughout 2020 and they should all be punished."

Well, that person tried to sell what happened in Portland as being only "speculation." I told her she needed to check out what the Mayor of
Portland was saying about it now (you know, now that the OBM has been voted out) as I thought he would no longer agree with her.

She didn't say anything else, but another co-worker jumped it and pretty
much defended the Portland actions as "fight for justice" and, due to the different reasons for the instances happening, not in the same boat as the "violence" that happened in DC.

That is the difference between most (not all, but most) right/Republicans
that I know vs. left/Democrats... the former believes that all the violence
is wrong, while the latter believes it is justified when it involves people
on the left.

Personally, if I was motivated enough to attend a right-wing protest, I
could see feeling it was justified considering that the left spent nearly
the entirety of last year doing the same damn thing and, for the most part, remaining completely unpunished for it.

The politicians and law enforcement who stood aside during 2020 set a VERY dangerous precident.


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Re: Re: President.
By: Dumas Walker to BORAXMAN on Sun Jan 17 2021 11:37 am

A former co-worker, on FB, brought up the recent issues in DC and that there should be criminal charges filed. I agreed, but made the "mistake" of including that it was (paraphrasing) "just as wrong as what happened
in Portland throughout 2020 and they should all be punished."

she will block you soon, i'm sure.
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Right Winger expressing opinion = Call to violence/terrorism
Left Winger expressing opinion = Fight for justice.

Same old same old. "Freedom fighter" vs "Terrorist". "Fighter for Social Change" vs "Insurrectionist/Terrorist".

A former co-worker, on FB, brought up the recent issues in DC and that there should be criminal charges filed. I agreed, but made the
"mistake" of including that it was (paraphrasing) "just as wrong as
what happened in Portland throughout 2020 and they should all be punished."

Well, that person tried to sell what happened in Portland as being only "speculation." I told her she needed to check out what the Mayor of Portland was saying about it now (you know, now that the OBM has been voted out) as I thought he would no longer agree with her.

She didn't say anything else, but another co-worker jumped it and
pretty much defended the Portland actions as "fight for justice" and,
due to the different reasons for the instances happening, not in the
same boat as the "violence" that happened in DC.

That is the difference between most (not all, but most)
right/Republicans that I know vs. left/Democrats... the former believes that all the violence is wrong, while the latter believes it is
justified when it involves people on the left.

Personally, if I was motivated enough to attend a right-wing protest, I could see feeling it was justified considering that the left spent
nearly the entirety of last year doing the same damn thing and, for the most part, remaining completely unpunished for it.

The politicians and law enforcement who stood aside during 2020 set a
VERY dangerous precident.

This is why conservatives/the Right lose. They believe in playing by the rules. They still think that you shouldn't be hypocritical, apply even standards, etc, etc. "By Any Means Necessary" will always beat those who follow the prescribed playbook. You can't beat an enemy which is willing to play dirty by playing clean, especially if they have more power over you already.

So those that pride themselves to not resorting to using blackmail, threats of cancellation and violence, typical actions of the regressive left, are simply priding themselves of being "good" people who would rather lose than win. Not really useful to anyone but themselves and their own bank balance, if they are a pundit like Ben Shapiro.

This is what worries me, that a situation has been created where there ONLY way to not be a loser is to use oppression, violance and other illegal tactics. IF you leave out political options for change and correction, you leave only the extra-political, in other words, nasty options. The politics of the barbarian.

I think it is too late. Perhaps 15 years ago, we could have eschewed this type of violence and oppression, but not now. Not with the establishment now supporting these barbarian politcs. Companies cave in to them, or go along. The Democrats are now part of the barbarians. We see the establishment willing to do what it takes, no matter what.

Civilisations rests on having certain avenues of action being out of bounds, certain ideas, certain ways of debate and politics being shunned. You allow open debate, but we must accept that ideas are discussed in a civilised, structured manner. That is why we have courts, a systematic way of bringing about justice that we all agree to follow. Now, we have mob justice.

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A former co-worker, on FB, brought up the recent issues in DC and that there should be criminal charges filed. I agreed, but made the "mistake" of including that it was (paraphrasing) "just as wrong as what happened in Portland throughout 2020 and they should all be punished."

she will block you soon, i'm sure.

The original poster might sure do that... the one that got most triggered
by it won't, though. I think she uses FB to spy on us and then report
stuff we say back to management if we talk bad about work.

I know that is what she used to do with it.


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The politicians and law enforcement who stood aside during 2020 set a VERY dangerous precident.

Civilisations rests on having certain avenues of action being out of bounds, certain ideas, certain ways of debate and politics being shunned. You allow open debate, but we must accept that ideas are discussed in a civilised, structured manner. That is why we have courts, a systematic way of bringing about justice that we all agree to follow. Now, we have mob justice.

Like I said, the politicians and law enforcement who stood aside during 2020 set a VERY dangerous precident. They are not the first ones to do it, but
they by far allowed the most dangerous one to be set so far.


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The politicians and law enforcement who stood aside during 2020 set a VERY dangerous precident.

Civilisations rests on having certain avenues of action being out of bounds, certain ideas, certain ways of debate and politics being shunned. You allow open debate, but we must accept that ideas are discussed in a civilised, structured manner. That is why we have courts, a systematic way of bringing about justice that we all agree to follow. Now, we have mob justice.

Like I said, the politicians and law enforcement who stood aside during 2020 set a VERY dangerous precident. They are not the first ones to do it, but they by far allowed the most dangerous one to be set so far.

I would say at that point in time, the battle had already been won. The riots were victory fanfare, a movement asserting its newfound power. The new order had been established prior to police standing by. What you saw was the new regime showing you what victories it had already obtained.

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Re: Re: President.
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jan 18 2021 01:47 pm

The original poster might sure do that... the one that got most triggered by it won't, though. I think she uses FB to spy on us and then report stuff we say back to management if we talk bad about work.

I know that is what she used to do with it.

OHH.. we have one of those at work. she also reports people for being on Fb during company hours. and when people are out sick she questions them about why and how long they will be out and she tells HR.

she has another account with her name backwards and she is on facebook all day at work.
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On 1/12/2021 4:49 AM, ARELOR wrote to MELKOR:

Such hurries are not natural. After more than 1400 days, they are in a rush to push him

over in the last 7?

They want to disqualify him since they know the Biden win was not organic and they know
that Trump will be knocking on the Biden/Harris doors in 2025.

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Re: RE: President.
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ARELOR on Sun Feb 07 2021 11:58 am

They want to disqualify him since they know the Biden win was not organic and they know that Trump will be knocking on the Biden/Harris doors in 2025.

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

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I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.
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Re: RE: President.
By: Denn to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Feb 11 2021 01:39 pm

Re: RE: President.
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ARELOR on Sun Feb 07 2021 11:58 am

They want to disqualify him since they know the Biden win was not organic and they know that Trump will be knocking on the Biden/Harris doors in 2025.

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

yeah his son is less of a prick and has less skeletons in his closet.
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Re: RE: President.
By: MRO to Denn on Thu Feb 11 2021 11:56 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

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Re: RE: President.
By: Denn to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Feb 11 2021 01:39 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

https://youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ

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Re: RE: President.
By: HusTler to MRO on Fri Feb 12 2021 07:48 am

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

I'm not too sure about that. People like the chaos that the Trump administration brought to America. They liked "leadership through Tweet" to hear it directly from his mouth and not through a spun version from his Press Secretary. Remember, there is still part of the populace that believes Donald Trump won a second term, that every news channel provides "fake news" if it doesn't support their personal narrative, and that he was working for each of his supporters to secure a "greater" America.

If it won't be Donald Trump in 4, it will be any of his cultish followers, children, or business partners.

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They want to disqualify him since they know the Biden win was not organic >MM> and they know that Trump will be knocking on the Biden/Harris doors in >MM> 2025.

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

He was talking like he was already planning to run in 2024 in the event he lost. However, after his dramatic exit (even if the 1/6 incident and 2nd impeachment had never happened), he may have lost some of his supporters.
I am not sure he'd be viable.


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HusTler wrote to MRO <=-

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the
Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment
but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to
become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After
what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for
Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

Ahhhh, so you slurped the Koolaid and think he "incited" that riot?



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Dream Master wrote to HusTler <=-

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

I'm not too sure about that. People like the chaos that the
Trump administration brought to America. They liked "leadership
through Tweet" to hear it directly from his mouth and not through
a spun version from his Press Secretary. Remember, there is
still part of the populace that believes Donald Trump won a
second term, that every news channel provides "fake news" if it
doesn't support their personal narrative, and that he was working
for each of his supporters to secure a "greater" America.

If it won't be Donald Trump in 4, it will be any of his cultish
followers, children, or business partners.

Feast your eyes on this:

https://images.app.goo.gl/8MMP1rPYHZojGuYQ8


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Re: Re: President.
By: Gamgee to Dream Master on Fri Feb 12 2021 01:36 pm

https://images.app.goo.gl/8MMP1rPYHZojGuYQ8

Officially, that's a big nope for me.

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Re: RE: President.
By: MRO to Denn on Thu Feb 11 2021 11:56 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

yeah his son is less of a prick and has less skeletons in his closet.

With all the pricks he had to deal with (Pelosi, Schummer, Schiff, Nadler, Warren, HRC, Waters etc.. you gotta be a prick back to them:)
I think the shit the Dems and Rino's pulled he's probably through with dealing directly with them.
I used to split my ticket between Dems and republicans and an ocassional 3rd party. Now I vote straight party brcause of all the crap the Dems pull.

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Re: RE: President.
By: HusTler to MRO on Fri Feb 12 2021 07:48 am

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's
or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

You can't blame that on Trump, He advocated peacful protests, and there were some insergents and agitator's.
And there is Drama with most administrations, Trump had Democrat's and allot of his own party to deal with.
at least he fought the swamp, the swamp creatures have showed us that there definatly needs to be term limits.
Now we got the same old swamp that we were trying to get rid of.

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Re: RE: President.
By: HusTler to MRO on Fri Feb 12 2021 07:48 am

Re: RE: President.
By: MRO to Denn on Thu Feb 11 2021 11:56 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

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to:Denn
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Re: RE: President.
By: Denn to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Feb 11 2021 01:39 pm

Re: RE: President.
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ARELOR on Sun Feb 07 2021 11:58 am

They want to disqualify him since they know the Biden win was not organic and they know that Trump will be knocking on the Biden/Harris doors in 2025.

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

yeah his son is less of a prick and has less skeletons in his closet.

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Re: RE: President.
By: Denn to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Feb 11 2021 01:39 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

https://youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ

He'll be 78 at the next election. He's not running again, guys.


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HusTler wrote to MRO <=-

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the
Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment
but I can't see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to
become president again. I for one am done with the drama. After
what happened in DC how can anyone with common sense vote for
Donald Trump? How many more Ashli Babbits is it going to take?

Ahhhh, so you slurped the Koolaid and think he "incited" that riot?

The whole world watched it. Who are you trying to convince by repeating that lie... yourself?


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Re: RE: President.
By: MRO to Denn on Thu Feb 11 2021 11:56 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

yeah his son is less of a prick and has less skeletons in his closet.

With all the pricks he had to deal with (Pelosi, Schummer, Schiff, Nadler, Warren, HRC, Waters etc.. you gotta be a prick back to them:)
I think the shit the Dems and Rino's pulled he's probably through with dealing directly with them.
I used to split my ticket between Dems and republicans and an
ocassional 3rd party. Now I vote straight party brcause of all the crap the Dems pull.

I guess what you're saying is he was just powerless against them and failed.


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They want to disqualify him since they know the Biden win was not organic and they know that Trump will be knocking on the Biden/Harris doors in 2025.

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

It'll be the next generation next time around, I think.


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Re: RE: President.
By: Dream Master to HusTler on Fri Feb 12 2021 08:53 am

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we're done hearing from the Trumps politically for a very long time. It was a fun experiment but I can't
see America ever allowing Trump or anyone like him to become president

I'm not too sure about that. People like the chaos that the Trump administration brought to America. They liked "leadership through Tweet" to hear it directly from his mouth and not through a spun version from his Pres Secretary. Remember, there is still part of the populace that believes Dona Trump won a second term, that every news channel provides "fake news" if it

If Mr Trump is not held accountable for Jan 6 2021 then I agree. He will be back.

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You can't blame that on Trump, He advocated peacful protests, and there were some insergents and agitator's.
And there is Drama with most administrations, Trump had Democrat's and allot of his own party to deal with.
at least he fought the swamp, the swamp creatures have showed us that there definatly needs to be term limits.
Now we got the same old swamp that we were trying to get rid of.
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I watched the Trump defense team pretty much eviscerate the Democrats yesterday... Anyway, I use to think... and still do kind of... that term limits could help... but I heard an argument against that. It simply goes like this... punting people out of office every so may years because of term limits will/may leave the only people running the place is the deep state...

I think the only way out of what we're in right now is some form of accountability... Politicians are so corrupt and never have to account for their sins. There needs to be an investigative body, one not centered out of Washington, that works for the people and can investigate these corrupt people and put them in jail before they die of old age.

Saw a meme the other day that depicts our current situation... We had a man give up luxury to serve his country... replaced him with a man who gave up his country for luxury.

Anyway, God help us all...

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Re: Re: President.
By: IB Joe to Denn on Sat Feb 13 2021 08:56 am

You can't blame that on Trump, He advocated peacful protests, and
there were some insergents and agitator's.

I watched the Trump defense team pretty much eviscerate the Democrats yesterday... Anyway, I use to think... and still do kind of... that term limits could help... but I heard an argument against that. It simply goes like this... punting people out of office every so may years because of term limits will/may leave the only people running the place is the deep state...

The deep state is already entrenched in our government, they were being exposed and that's why the 1st impeachment happened, then later all the election fraud to overthrow Trump.
I'm not so sure it can be fixed.

I think the only way out of what we're in right now is some form of accountability... Politicians are so corrupt and never have to account for their sins. There needs to be an investigative body, one not centered out of Washington, that works for the people and can investigate these corrupt people and put them in jail before they die of old age.

That would be a definate deterant for some of the corruption in government:)

Saw a meme the other day that depicts our current situation... We had a man give up luxury to serve his country... replaced him with a man who gave up his country for luxury.

I'll have to look for that meme, since I left twttier I'm out of the meme loop:)
But it's one of those meme's that are spot on.

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On 13 Feb 2021, Denn said the following...

You can't blame that on Trump, He advocated peacful protests, and
there were some insergents and agitator's.

I watched the Trump defense team pretty much eviscerate the Democrats yesterday... Anyway, I use to think... and still do kind of... that t limits could help... but I heard an argument against that. It simply like this... punting people out of office every so may years because term limits will/may leave the only people running the place is the d state...

The deep state is already entrenched in our government, they were being exposed and that's why the 1st impeachment happened, then later all the election fraud to overthrow Trump.
I'm not so sure it can be fixed.

Politicians are so corrupt... They've been investigating the Clinton foundation for years... from what we know publicly there is something wrong... they "investigate" it for sooooooooooo long and just quietly drop it years later and no one notices. I didn't think there was anyone crookeder that Hillery ... in steps Nancy and says hold my latte... an recently spent millions and millions in stock options in Tesla just days before China Joe announces that he's changing the entire federal fleet to electric...

I think the only way out of what we're in right now is some form of accountability... Politicians are so corrupt and never have to accoun their sins. There needs to be an investigative body, one not centered of Washington, that works for the people and can investigate these co people and put them in jail before they die of old age.

That would be a definate deterant for some of the corruption in government:)

Like a CEO of a company who signs off on their boors as being accurate and if they are not they are subject to jail time... Things might have worked a little different for Cuomo in New York...

Corruption is not just a left thing... Take a look at the current scandal with the Lincoln Project, never Trupers, one of the founders liked to screw young men, and boys, everyone knew and no one said anything... ALL because they were needed to trash Trump..... Sick people... grown men knew their was a sick fuck amongst them and they looked away because the orange man was bad.

Saw a meme the other day that depicts our current situation... We had man give up luxury to serve his country... replaced him with a man wh gave up his country for luxury.

I'll have to look for that meme, since I left twttier I'm out of the
meme loop:)
But it's one of those meme's that are spot on.
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Sent my daughter the book 1984... she hasn't read that yet... and needed to to better understand todays Democratic party. How things have changed.

I spent a bit of time looking over Kennedy and Nixon debate ... you'll notice one thing... They agreed on a lot of things... Nixon was quoted as saying "I agree to what Kennedy is saying..." Both parties, it seemed at one time, has a shared vision of the country. They only differed in their approach to the solutions on how to fix the problems...

We'll be following the science right off the cliff.

God help up

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Re: RE: President.
By: Denn to MRO on Fri Feb 12 2021 06:14 pm

Re: RE: President.
By: MRO to Denn on Thu Feb 11 2021 11:56 pm

I don't think Trump will run again, I think maybe one of his son's or
his Daughter might though, that's just my opinion.

yeah his son is less of a prick and has less skeletons in his closet.

With all the pricks he had to deal with (Pelosi, Schummer, Schiff, Nadler, Warren, HRC, Waters etc.. you gotta be a prick back to them:)
I think the shit the Dems and Rino's pulled he's probably through with dealing directly with them.

to be president you have to be a bit of a bullshit artist. obama was the king of the bullshit artists.

i've said this before, but you notice trump didnt age greatly like all the other presidents. he didnt internalize the stress. someone gave him shit and he gave it back. he was a fucking animal. barely slept and ate fast food and kept the tv on all the time.

I used to split my ticket between Dems and republicans and an ocassional 3rd party. Now I vote straight party brcause of all the crap the Dems pull.

yep me too. i think that's how we're all steering.
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Re: RE: President.
By: Denn to HusTler on Fri Feb 12 2021 06:22 pm

You can't blame that on Trump, He advocated peacful protests, and there were some insergents and agitator's.
And there is Drama with most administrations, Trump had Democrat's and allot of his own party to deal with.
at least he fought the swamp, the swamp creatures have showed us that there definatly needs to be term limits.
Now we got the same old swamp that we were trying to get rid of.

now more shit is coming out that a lot of this was planned. people were going there to start problems and it was planned before trump even said anything. might not even be organized by people who supported trump.
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Re: RE: President.
By: MRO to Denn on Sat Feb 13 2021 03:17 pm

You can't blame that on Trump, He advocated peacful protests, and
there were some insergents and agitator's.

now more shit is coming out that a lot of this was planned. people were going there to start problems and it was planned before trump even said an

Yes, but the leftist's will only read the or watch the Media that is controlled by the DNC.
their masters at the DNC have complete controll over them.

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I spent a bit of time looking over Kennedy and Nixon debate ... you'll notice o
e thing... They agreed on a lot of things... Nixon was quoted as saying "I agre
to what Kennedy is saying..." Both parties, it seemed at one time, has a shared
vision of the country. They only differed in their approach to the solutions o
n how to fix the problems...

I think part of that is either on the public or the press or both, i.e. a candidate that agrees with the oppossing candidate one too many times is thought to be either weak or unable to come up with their own ideas.

So now we get candidates who are very polarized and overlap on very little.


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I spent a bit of time looking over Kennedy and Nixon debate ... you'll no >o
e thing... They agreed on a lot of things... Nixon was quoted as saying " >agre
to what Kennedy is saying..." Both parties, it seemed at one time, has a >shared
vision of the country. They only differed in their approach to the solut >o
n how to fix the problems...

I think part of that is either on the public or the press or both, i.e. a candidate that agrees with the oppossing candidate one too many times is thought to be either weak or unable to come up with their own ideas.

Then you missed my point or I never made it... Either way.... There was once
a time in history, I sited the Nixon/Kennedy debate where the candidates had similar goals, just different ways to get there... Recall it was Kennedy who said "It's not what you country can do for you... it's what you can do for your country..." That statement sounds more republican than democrat...

Now the democratic speeches sound like ...Kill whitey ... tax the rich until they move.... and lets follow science over this cliff and bankrupt the country so that there is nothing to give to the next generations to come...

I'm starting to see that most politicians are in it for themselves... and are corrupt corrupt corrupt... They are not there to represent the people of their districts, that's for sure.

Back in the day Kennedy and Nixon both showed their love for the country and the people of the country... At that time the Democrats thought the government needed to help a little where as the Republicans thought the government should be limited and let the people enjoy their lives and forge their own way in life... Kind of like the constitution says... Limited federal government was the idea... NOW... wholly SHIT... WTF is going on.

So now we get candidates who are very polarized and overlap on very little.

Polarized... could have started way back... not sure... way way or just way back. Republicans maybe should not have impeached Clinton for his Blow Job... But Obama with his identity politics took it to the next level.

If you ask me... let the guy get a blow job... Maybe we should put it in the constitution... I'm for it...

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Re: Re: President.
By: IB Joe to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 14 2021 01:29 pm

Job... But Obama with his identity politics took it to the next level.

If you ask me... let the guy get a blow job... Maybe we should put it in the constitution... I'm for it...

obviously him and his wife have some agreement. it's like they are friends only. i think the same thing is going on with obama and michael.

clinton was impeached because he lied under oath and he was obstructing justice.
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Re: Re: President.
By: IB Joe to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 14 2021 01:29 pm

Job... But Obama with his identity politics took it to the next level.

If you ask me... let the guy get a blow job... Maybe we should put it i constitution... I'm for it...

obviously him and his wife have some agreement. it's like they are friends only. i think the same thing is going on with obama and michael.

Friends without benefits... could be why he was on the Lolita Express banging underage girls like they were drums in a marching band... And it was good to see you got the spelling Mike's name correct.

clinton was impeached because he lied under oath and he was obstructing justice.
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I know why he was impeached... and they should have gave him the blow job and he wouldn't have had to lie... If a president for 3 or 4 BJ cards when entering office he could have just pulled the card out slammed it down, like a boss, and went back into the oval office to finish the peoples business would have been a better angle.

Just saying

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Re: Re: President.
By: IB Joe to MRO on Sun Feb 14 2021 03:20 pm

clinton was impeached because he lied under oath and he was obstructing justice.
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I know why he was impeached... and they should have gave him the blow job and he wouldn't have had to lie... If a president for 3 or 4 BJ cards when entering office he could have just pulled the card out slammed it down, like a boss, and went back into the oval office to finish the peoples business would have been a better angle.

he could have just fucked the pig outside of the white house
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Re: Re: President.
By: IB Joe to MRO on Sun Feb 14 2021 03:20 pm

clinton was impeached because he lied under oath and he was obstru justice.
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I know why he was impeached... and they should have gave him the blow j and he wouldn't have had to lie... If a president for 3 or 4 BJ cards w entering office he could have just pulled the card out slammed it down like a boss, and went back into the oval office to finish the peoples business would have been a better angle.

he could have just fucked the pig outside of the white house
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He could have,we don't know where Bill and Hillary had sex...

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Re: Re: President.
By: IB Joe to MRO on Mon Feb 15 2021 07:56 am

he could have just fucked the pig outside of the white house
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He could have,we don't know where Bill and Hillary had sex...

i think there's only proof they had sex one time.
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Then you missed my point or I never made it... Either way.... There was once >a time in history, I sited the Nixon/Kennedy debate where the candidates had si
ilar goals, just different ways to get there... Recall it was Kennedy who said
"It's not what you country can do for you... it's what you can do for your coun
ry..." That statement sounds more republican than democrat...

I may have missed the point the first time. :)

Now the democratic speeches sound like ...Kill whitey ... tax the rich until th
y move.... and lets follow science over this cliff and bankrupt the country so >hat there is nothing to give to the next generations to come...

Note that like most people they only follow science that suits them... they will ignore biology and physiology, for example, in favor of the more touchy-feely sciences when it comes to how many genders there are, for
example.

I'm starting to see that most politicians are in it for themselves... and are c
rrupt corrupt corrupt... They are not there to represent the people of their di
tricts, that's for sure.

Most of them don't that is true.

Polarized... could have started way back... not sure... way way or just way bac
. Republicans maybe should not have impeached Clinton for his Blow Job... But >Obama with his identity politics took it to the next level.

I don't think they objection was for the BJ, but the fact that Bill was apparently fond of getting the BJs while he was on the phone and, at least
on one occassion, discussing things on the call that the intern didn't have security clearance for. She should not have been in the room, much less
under the desk.

People pitch fits about Russian colussion now... what if she'd been a
Russian or Chinese spy?

Identity politics will kill this country a lot quicker than the BJs, or anything W or Trump or (anything else) Clinton did.


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MRO wrote to IB Joe <=-

He could have,we don't know where Bill and Hillary had sex...

i think there's only proof they had sex one time.

I think we need more proof than Chelsea.


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