If you don't have to work in an office every day, or if you live
near your work, then it's better to not have a car and ride share.
If you commute over 30 minutes each way, and take road trips through
the year or travel more, you're better off having transportation.
There's the freedom matter as well, not to mention shopping becomes
more constrained if you like to shop in stores.
If you order your groceries & everything online, I'd think the
delivery fees and tips could add up significantly.
The real issue with ridesharing is that oftentimes you end up
waiting for the other rideshares to show up. Sometimes they
don't show up and they don't bother to notify you. I used to
rideshare a lot in the past and, while it cuts costs, it is
such a pain in the ass at times. A regular bus line is so
much better (if it exists) despite the fact bus lines have a
tendency to be poor solutions.
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
SUV/Truck options.
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including SUV/Truck options.
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and
insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees
and
who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?
who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?
I don't know, but in my area, I've been seing plenty of Teslas, BMWs, trucks, etc. that I'm sure cost around that or more, and I wonder how so many people can afford to be paying for such vehicles, or if they're getting loans where they may be paying that much for their vehicle..
MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-
Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with
low credit score and bankrupcy?
If you order your groceries & everything online, I'd think the
delivery fees and tips could add up significantly.
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
SUV/Truck options.
I think people are just USED to the idea that you buy a car. It's the done thing, just part of the culture. Something we as a society are brainwashed(?) into doing, an automatic action when we reach that life stage. I would bet most people who bought a car, did not assidiously research the cost/benefit implications of buying vs putting that money elsewhere and using ad hoc services. For many people, whether this lands in favour of buying or not will depend on circumstances. But young people in urban areas, who can walk or bike to work could very well have looked at it and found that not buying is better.
Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
SUV/Truck options.
Tracker1 wrote to Arelor <=-
I'm referring more to "ride share" like Uber/Lift over real ride sharing... Though real ride sharing can help a lot if you live/work
near the same place(s) or in route.
Nightfox wrote to Tracker1 <=-
I feel like $50K is more than I'd want to spend on a car (and would probably buy more than I'd really need in a vehicle). I think I could find a decent car for a lot less than that (and even less if it's a
used car). And ideally if the cost is low enough, I could just buy it outright and avoid paying extra in interest that would come with a
loan.
While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).
Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-
It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including SUV/Truck options.
After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.
I'm amazed at what auto-detailers (or an owner with a portable Bissell cleaner) can do to an interior. I'm not going to buy another used car without having the interior detailed again.
I bought a 2011 Mazda CX-9 for $8000 (great car, killer AWD, seats 7, fun to drive, doesn't feel like 5000+ pounds) and had the interior detailed by those people who come to your office with a van. Steam cleaned and conditioned leather, headliner cleaned, all the plastic cleaned and treated, carpets and mats shampooed and it looked like new on the inside.
The outside was in pretty good shape - a hand wash, tire treatment, a little cleaner on the headlights and it was good to go.
... TWENTY PERCENT OF DENTISTS RECOMMEND GUM
Boraxman wrote to Nightfox <=-
While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).
Try to look at the bigger picture. I know in our society we only
ever look at things from a purely individualistic point of view,
but the car isn't just you buying one. The tax payer has to pay
for infrastructure, this is a MAJOR expense too. It's more than
just buying a toothbrush. The whole idea of the car is an
investment that society makes at large. Considering that the
speed and ease at which we travel in cars declines over time (its
taking longer and longer to drive around the city and costs more
and more to ameliorate traffic snarls), surely the diminishing
returns would be something to consider.
At some point, we as a society need to examine this critically,
and look to urban design which reduces the frequency in which we
find the car to be the only viable transportation option.
I've stated this like 100 times so far, and everyone is fixated
on their own personal purchase.
After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles,
peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.
it if I can. Like someone said on here, automobiles are a horrible investment. But part of that is partially do to the way people think now a days. Most people buy a vehicle and only use for like 2 years, trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to just keep up with the Jones.
After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "becaus we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.
I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody wanted th uns great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like someone s trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to j
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... I know a good tagline when I steal one!
I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody want uns great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like some trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely
Irish_Monk
My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension
package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.
My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.
Yeah I have always been pretty impressed with Toyota cars and trucks myself.
Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-
While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think
sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if
it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to
go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things.
Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-
While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things.
I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.
your date fucks a guy with a car
your date fucks a guy with a car
Not everybody dates strippers.
your date fucks a guy with a car
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun Sep 11 2022 05:25 pm
your date fucks a guy with a car
Not everybody dates strippers.
No, not everybody does, but still MRO has a bit of a point.
Relationships have to be maintained. You need to do interesting stuff with y girl or she will become bored and move on with somebody who is more interesting. Being interesting takes resources and that often means if you l some key resource, you are a bad catch.
I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shorte to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch their boyfriends mo frequently than I take a shower (and I do multiple times a day). Men are ver low value in the dating scene because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.
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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shortened to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch
their boyfriends more frequently than I take a shower (and I do
multiple times a day). Men are very low value in the dating scene
because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to
decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.
Careful, you are close to incel territory there.
Romanticism is dead. Now members in couples just look for selfish instant
Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm
Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm
Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is suppos to mean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
Nightfox
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It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so
guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.
It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl an impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.
Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: esc to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:55 pm
It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.
Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*
The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller t the number of girls I have made an advancement on.
My friends have a similar experience.
If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask fo date, he is up for a disappointment.
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My friends have a similar experience.
If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.
people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.
Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?
I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get
used to being attached or were married immediately from high school, they cannot function as individuals. They cling too hard on requiring a nother person for emotion support and stability. I'm not sure I would call that lo . Maybe a security blanket.
Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?
That's one thing I don't like about friends playing matchmaker. That initial spark or sense of chemistry isn't always present. Even though I have never been diagnosed, I suspect I have autism spectrum disorder, and I
Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?
feelings of what is love or lust.
I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so
Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or
sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc..
Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
still on good terms with their ex.
one other thing about the friend matchmaker shit: nothing lasts forever, so when the breakup comes people normally have to pick sides. so everyone loses a friend.
Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or
you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends.
over is over.
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm
Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or
you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends.
over is over.
The main reason to avoid a serious relationship with somebody who has a burden is that her burden will end up being your burden too.
A friend of mine got into a romance with a single mother who had her kid with 16. He ended up acting more like a parent than as a boyfriend. Bonus anti-points because this guy hates kids and has made it clear over and over again that he plans not to produce any little monster. I think he thought he could bed this woman and keep the contact with the kid to a minimum, but the harsh truth is that if you engage with a gal who comes with a larvae from a previous relationship... her larvae comes first and you come second in her priorities. That, if you are lucky.
Last time I saw this guy both mother and larvae had moved into this guy's house and he was freaking out because he didn't want to deal with the kid, but didn't want to end the relationship either. It is extremely important to be able to see these things before hand. If I got something serious with a woman, my horses and dogs come in Falken's package, so if you don't want horses and dogs, don't fucking buy the fucking package. Same with single mothers.
I haven't seen this guy for ages, but last I have heard is he got rid of his troubles and is now dating somebody else. It is never late to learn from your mistakes and correct them :-)
Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
still on good terms with their ex.
they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.
people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when I was a teen. I thinkIt can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If you feel like you really need someone in your life right away and/or want to move in or marry them quickly, you're taking a
I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.
gamble.
Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get
tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?
Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc.. Some people also have a
friendly divorce and are still on good terms with their ex.
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Sharethis is true, however. at that age you both know what you want and it does actually make it a little easier - speaking from experience.
By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am
feelings of what is love or lust.
I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so
you can be like that gamgee guy and marry the prostitute you and your buddies used to frequent when you were overseas in the military. they will be happy to marry and be out of that situation.
i don't think she will keep doing the "me so horny" act once she settles in, though.
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am
people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would lik things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in life" excited like when I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.
It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If
Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it' hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if th still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over wi them?
Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or s x.
Nightfox
Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
still on good terms with their ex.
they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.
I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..
Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
still on good terms with their ex.
they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.
I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..
Nightfox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.
Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:28 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.
Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.
Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.
Yeah lol I seem to recall some dude attacked a bunch of people while saying the equivalent of "incel represent!"
Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.
I don't think there's an actual group that gave themselves that name. apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.
it's just a word created by assholes to insult other assholes.
and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.
They did. shit, they even created their own group on reddit (r/incels) which was eventually banned when reddit started to get popular and the owners realized "oh shit, we could actually get in trouble for some of the shit people are saying on this site"
and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
Yeah, I was a giant, awkward nerd and I still managed to get a girlfriend, and get married. (will be 25 years in May)
and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cu
off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.
It's possible "incel" was coined by someone else, but they referred to themsel
s as "involuntarily celibate" since the 90s. I remember running into a group
f them on IRC at one point, back when I was in high school, so that must have en '93-94 or so (some friends and I took over their IRC channel for a time. it
as hilarious).
and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.
that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cu
off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.
Are cut off, or cut their husbands off? It is usually the latter.
I am amazed when either partner cuts the other one off and then acts shocked when that partner start looking elsewhere to find it.
I could see younger people calling themselves that.
At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison for violent offenses, where they then become "involuntarily not-celibate"
These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chokers (easy to do on the internet now days), and after spending enough time having their own thoughts echoed back to them in these toxic cesspits they call "communities", they go out start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:57 am
I could see younger people calling themselves that.
Yeah, it's definitely younger people for the most part. They grow up a bit,
At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison
These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chok ut start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.
DaiTengu
... I must follow them. I am their leader.
One of my "Facebook" friends, a girl I knew from school that was a few years above me in my sister's class, always post and complains about not finding Mr Right. There's been several times I've created a response, then changed it before hitting send. Every time I see her, it is in a bar or place with a
beer garden and band playing. I would like to tell her unless she tries a different type of pond, she will continue to catch the same type of fish. What I fear is she is a functioning alcoholic, and there's not much in her life outside of socializing where alcohol is served.
and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complaining that's j
people always find what they are looking for.
Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:49 am
she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complainin
people always find what they are looking for.
I am sure some people are just like that. In other cases, I think it is just of them finding what they look for, but not what they want, because they loo wrong deal.
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and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.
where are you at right now? a day care?
Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 03:16 pm
and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.
It is not terribly common, but there is a bunch of people who are psychologically emasculated. They'd had a girl but they have this mind blockade bounding them. They talk all day long about not being able to get
If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid there is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are just late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same path.
it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.
there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was friendly. the ot
they had different activites and live music.
it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.
I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so off-putting :-(
Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm
If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa
it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.
there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.
it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.
Moondog wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm
Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm
If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa
it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.
there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.
it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.
We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.
Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy
police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of
a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.
I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
off-putting :-(
Re: Incels
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:39 pm
I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. am a very task oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order accomplish some specific goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so off-putting :-(
you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it j
Moondog wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm
Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm
If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the s stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid t is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some ar late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same
it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new frien it's just not people getting drunk.
there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there wa they had different activites and live music.
it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.
We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.
Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.
I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it j
The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for at least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have
My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moose, but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally, but i do
not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. I joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities,
age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!
That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so
guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl
and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.
Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-
It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an
older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent.
That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a
hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home
with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a
MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.
Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-
I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources
into things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.
Arelor wrote to esc <=-
The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far
smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.
My friends have a similar experience.
MRO wrote to Arelor <=-
My friends have a similar experience.
If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.
usually people that say they dont have problems are people who take the easy way out and date within friend groups or the workplace.
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:06 am
you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else it j
The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have
there's lot of bars shit in my city where everyone goes to socialize.
My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moo but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally but i do
not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities
you're talking about mooselodge right? and headquarters is mooseheart?
that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ
Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am
age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being ol shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop hav fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!
That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their sp time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they'r kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.
those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u
so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?
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I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
off-putting :-(
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
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Arelor wrote to bex <=-
It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.
Interestingly enough, your clarification made you sound like *more* of an incel, not less. The classic incel believe that they are "involuntarily celibate" but are owed sex, whether it's just for being alive, or for
having the bad luck to be short or not attractive. They go hand in had with the "nice guy," who believe they are owed sex because they do things like open doors for women, pay women compliments, do things for women, pretend
to be a woman's friend. They're the kind who whine about the "friend zone" too.
Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.
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Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-
I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources into things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.
Because you are equating relationships to financial transactions, and you sound like you are saying that you somehow earn the interest of a potential romantic interest thruogh the use of money.
Or is that not what you were saying?
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Arelor wrote to esc <=-
The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.
Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
interested enough to make an advance on you.
:)
I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make
initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.
I really think you're over-thinking things, Mr. Sir.
My friends have a similar experience.
Of that I have absolutely no doubt.
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Re: a very task oriented pers
By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in New York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and find a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could read people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye on y
oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding the plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
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Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
interested enough to make an advance on you.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ
Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, soccer, and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, and other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host
those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u
so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?
I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on a bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to life than reaching the bottom of a bottle.
I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various levels of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or ask to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick around to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plans
Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-
It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent.
Hey now, I'm a 52 year old woman!
That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a
Is it possible you are painting all women by one particular woman?
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Arelor wrote to bex <=-
It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl
and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.
Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.
I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and
chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.
I would argue that the ones having problems with communication are not usually the dudes.
When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely
gets
a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other
cover-up.
Granted, most guys will pick this up, but this does not count as good communication. At
all.
i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit
and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.
Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as
heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless
it is done in order to achieve some objective.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store
feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is
different because the conversation can be more specific. A
good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the
person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed
of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and
are single.)
i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.
I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.
My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
college class).
to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to
unwind and get to sleep sometimes.
I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
off-putting :-(
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!
That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.
I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.
Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
MRO wrote to Ogg <=-
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT
creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
Moondog wrote to MRO <=-
We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.
MRO wrote to esc <=-
that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cut off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing. ---
also traveling alone is creepy.
That statement is just plain silly. A lot of people travel alone, whether it's because of work, events, family. Single people travel all the time, whether by themselves or with family or friends (like a girls trip to Vegas!). Traveling alone or traveling while single can be absolutely thrilling, it's already like an adventure. Meeting someone while on an adventure? That leads to wonderful stories that a person can tell for a lifetime!
"That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good difference in your life.
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT cre
also traveling alone is creepy.
My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in N York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and f a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could re people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation c be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least kno the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how ma women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
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There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody y supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of t Big difference.
See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, not creepy.*
If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conv with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the convey that is not creepy.*
If you go to a bar and walk to a random guy and start talking about the weat is very, VERY WHAT THE FUCK.
*Asuming the conversation does not distract people from their task, obviousl
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Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation c be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least kno the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how ma women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b
Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:31 pm
that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ
Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, socce and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host
well the mooselodge does a lot of good things for communities with fundraisi
Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:55 pm
those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u
so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?
I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to l than reaching the bottom of a bottle.
i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and f
I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various lev of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or as to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick aro to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plan
that stuff sounds like work.
i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.
I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bri tionship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.
Hello Moondog!
** On Monday 19.09.22 - 22:15, Moondog wrote to MRO:
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store
feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is
different because the conversation can be more specific. A
good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the
person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed
of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and
are single.)
Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
ID to know if the women are single. :D
My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
college class).
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
Well, if you are trying to sell a product, you first have to convince the bu the product is awesome, and you only talk about the price once the buyer is purchase the product (unless the product's selling point is the price itself
You sure as heck don't try to sell yourself by stating your price upfront, s if it is not a cheap price.
Girls do this all the time, on the other hand, which is a blessing, because you to kick them off the list early.
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to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to unwind and get to sleep sometimes.
I sometimes take a cannabis gummy to go to sleep. Works really well. And doesn't have that same effect on me to take more.
There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody y supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of t Big difference.
See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, not creepy.*
If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conv with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the convey that is not creepy.*
range (and are single.)
they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b
That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the truth. The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and their likes
and buying habits.
Work is sweating when you don't like it. Otherwise it is a hobby.
Having a drink or two is fine. Stopping at the bar for a few drinks at 4pm then
having someone drive you home at last call on a regular basis is a bad habit.
Moondog wrote to MRO <=-
We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.
I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their 20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.
I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".
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Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he
said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
may be none at all.
If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.
If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.
Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recreational cannabis usage during off-hours. I think showing up high is still a fireable offense, though (like showing up drunk).
Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve some objective.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:45 pm
range (and are single.)
they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b
That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the trut The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and th likes
and buying habits.
stalking
Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around th house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'l drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
may be none at all.
Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewa
One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in for my own sanity and well being.
If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if i were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so can't take that shit.
Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recrea
Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for long term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate and
clingy.
I'm a big guy with a football player body. if i'm going up to a woman in a store s
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:16 pm
Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve
some objective.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
i can't tell if you're just trying to be edgy or something but nihilism is the real
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I wonder how they can tell if a person is not under the effect of THC? The police tests years ago would detect use, but not potency or concentration in the system like the a breathalyzer does with blood alcohol content. When I workd in nuclear power generation, use of any pot-based product that tripped their drug test would result in immediate termination.
There is a paradox there.
You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably show you are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleeding (which is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.
Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you baking apple pie diminishes.
with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
they can do anything with thc right now.
with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.
I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)
Arelor said to bex: <=-
Anyway, your reduction of human romantic relationships to "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that difficult to see the difference.
I suspect you are trying to lump me in with a group I have no
affiliation with, so I will make it easy for you:
People sucks and uses other people as assets.
Women are people. Therefore they suck and use other people as assets.
Just as men do. Big surprise.
Dumas Walker said to Bex: <=-
Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a"simple"
financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that
I did not read it that way. I have not ever met any women who are impressed by someone who cannot afford to go out anywhere and do things
Arelor said to bex: <=-
By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or
94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the
minority that would act on their own.
The ones that advance themselves seem to be the "Live Dangerously and
Die Young" variety, *IN MY EXPERIENCE.*
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.
Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl
phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.
usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the
girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 03:46 pm
Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for l term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate clingy.
There is a paradox there.
You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleedi is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first
I guess that for an actual desperate person, it is very hard to switch despe off. Desperation in general is rooted in many factors that are not easy to c is easy to tell people not to be desperate, but if the reason they are despe they lack legs and arms and cannot get a job and they are having a bad time one, that is not getting an easy fix...
Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a dam you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody beside baking apple pie diminishes.
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Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Arelor to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 01:34 pm
There is a paradox there.
You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitab show you are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody see you bleeding (which is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.
i think all courting involves some deception of some type.
then you are together and act like yourself and hope they are okay with that usually women try to change men but that never works.
i'm at the point where i had real long relationshits so i'm not looking for
Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you baking apple pie diminishes.
stop talking about your masturbation.
with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.
I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :
with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't thinkI don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)
they can do anything with thc right now.
I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?
are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.
You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
"go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
way to get some one on one time together.
I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate h
elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing w
h her
horse so late at night.
I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate h
elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing w
h her
horse so late at night.
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am
or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my
basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my
basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
You're hunting a prowler with a hammer? LOL. Ever heard the phrase
"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Hahahaha
You have a lot of prowlers? Is this something you do frequently? LMAO
Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to esc on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:12 am
are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.
no they can't do that part. they can only work with what they have.
people's bodies work different.
they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.
they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.
The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay help you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your body broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my
basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
You're hunting a prowler with a hammer? LOL. Ever heard the phrase
"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Hahahaha
You have a lot of prowlers? Is this something you do frequently? LMAO
Barefoot too, apparently.. No time to even put on a pair of
slippers or sandals when going outside..
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or m trying to hunt a prowler.
You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great way to get some one on one time together.
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.
The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 11:54 pm
they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THA
The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay he you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your b broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.
if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or m trying to hunt a prowler.
That could be. I don't think you'd be outside playing around at 3am with a horse, though. :)
By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or 94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the minority that would act on their own.
What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media
I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
with the cave allegory?
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:
BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.
So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.
Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl
No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.
phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.
Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug dealer" and murdering them?
You made me giggle, thank you!
usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.
I think there are two main reasons for this:
1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc
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I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?
I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to loca elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playi h her
horse so late at night.
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay he you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your b broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.
if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.
Well, that way you can move around pretty much silently, ya know. You
need every advantage you can get when engaging with "prowlers" - they're very crafty. Also, hammers are much quieter than guns.
product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow into the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush has a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/
Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I usually chec
on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:00 am
I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, wha other false pretenses am I getting involved with?
The issue here is that, in the end of the day, you are just selling a produc (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can b done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am
The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an averag person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalz wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate you broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.
if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.
It... depends.
A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow in the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush h a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/
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Nightfox wrote to bex <=-
Vegas!). Traveling alone or traveling while single can be absolutely thrilling, it's already like an adventure.
Yep. If I wanted to go somewhere but didn't have anyone to go with, I wouldn't wait around to go with someone. I want to live life, and I'd
go travel alone if nobody went with me.
Nightfox wrote to bex <=-
less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.
It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being good friends.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Arelor to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:02 am
product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to m really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It ca be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressiv than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar
Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or
chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
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chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother was
were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and tried the Just
For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looked ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he
well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar
If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating
that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is
Re: Spending time vs money
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am
chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlif preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking f caches.
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder wha
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 25 2022 11:13 am
That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother w
this one woman i used to talk to was using those sites. the dude that showe
also i am a germfreak and i have some morals, but I like to check out those on there to see if there's anybody i know. i've spotted 3 coworkers on thos
were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and trie the Just
For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looke ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he
that just for men shit is total shit. it oxydizes and doesn't keep for long also you are supposed to go one shade lighter.
for my beard which is now totally white because of women, i use that root to you wash your face with dishsoap and dry it. then put it the dye on for jus
for my hair that has white on the temples now, i use the just for men shampoo. it also oxydizes and the color changes in the tube but it still wo
that is very subtle and works real well. I probably don't need to do this
you have to be careful with this dying your head hair shit. your hair will
Ogg wrote to Moondog <=-
Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
ID to know if the women are single. :D
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 03:59 pm
well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar
If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is
yeah and monkeys might fly out of my butt. whats your point.
Re: Spending time vs money
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:48 pm
Re: Spending time vs money
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am
chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlif preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking f caches.
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder wha
Refuse to be a victim. Places known for criminal behavior should be avoided.
Arelor wrote to Moondog <=-
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is.
It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
Arelor wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I
usually check on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so
if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.
bex wrote to Nightfox <=-
In my late 20s, I was lucky enough to go to Amsterdam for six weeks for work. It was one of the best adventures of my life.
Marketing (at least with regards to personal branding) is all about discovering a problem that the customer has, finding and fixing a customer's problem for a price, and picking a niche to make you the biggest player in the market - at least in the beginning.
If your target niche is "Personal Companionship for Female Babylon 5 Cosplayers", good luck.
Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what ppened with that.
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what ppened with that.
Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).
Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free
teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from
money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not
dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to
just hang out, in public or otherwise.
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media
I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.
For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/ 201104/
why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like
one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if
she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am or walking
around barefoot outside with a hammer.
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
i drove around to see where he went but couldnt see him. I called the
police and they couldn't find him. Too bad you can't just shoot people
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Arelor wrote to bex <=-
take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance
:O
You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?
Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.
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Re: Spending time vs money
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 04:45 pm
Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.
remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonde what ppened with that.
Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).
i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based
out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco, London, Paris and Hamburg.
esc wrote to bex <=-
In my late 20s, I was lucky enough to go to Amsterdam for six weeks for work. It was one of the best adventures of my life. I hit all the major
Sounds fantastic!
This reminds me when my ex and I split and I was so utterly depressed I could barely function and I had a work trip to Romania for about three weeks. Let's just say Bucharest was very kind to my broken American
heart at the time. It turned out to be a memorable and amazing trip
which helped pull me out of my funk quick. And I visited places I would likely never have heard of otherwise.
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from
I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.
Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).
i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.
If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.
Not to mention more cute and cuddly.
Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-
If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.
Not to mention more cute and cuddly.
Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at
least, in this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in
Kentucky where many people (male and female) regard their horses
much more highly than their fellow humans.
Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).
i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.
Thanks, I saw that today. Spooky!
Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou
a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.
What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?
I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based
out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco,
London, Paris and Hamburg.
esc wrote to Gamgee <=-
I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)
As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO.
And I'm woke as a mfer.
bex wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
What are your favorite memories of that trip?
Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)
But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding "woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to do with the value of dogs vs humans.
there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'
there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'
There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley
faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.
Re: Spending time vs money
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:45 pm
there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'
There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.
they probably picked it off of the headlines.
what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nut because he mentioned the spray paintings.
i really think there is a pusher out there, or multiple ones.
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting
to hang around. Not to mention safer.
Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from
I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.
esc wrote to bex <=-
Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou
a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.
Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write,
The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.
What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?
car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a
crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain
passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the
tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to
start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to
Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears
It was a hoot!
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
I got lucky as a kid....
so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was
lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my
sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china,
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
1. The Pubs! So social, so friendly, and proper beer.
2. Catching the Chelsea FC, next door to the hotel.
3. The cabinet war rooms and the Army museum in London.
4. Walking around Paris, eating lunch at a sidewalk cafe. Had a group
building painted white with the pride colors striped across the front,
and in huge pink letters, "GAY POLKA BAR". As we walked closer, we
There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.
they probably picked it off of the headlines.
what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we see in our mind's eye.
Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!
Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that
will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that
would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
they probably picked it off of the headlines.
what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.
Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).
bex wrote to Charles Blackburn <=-
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was
your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems
like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all
humans. :O
esc wrote to Gamgee <=-
Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a
population that can make.
bex wrote to esc <=-
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good.
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.
Damn, my twit list is filling up today...
so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i wasI am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all
lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my
sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
humans. :O
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia,*gasp* watch out for dropbears!
but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from
I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.
Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... Leela: This wangs chung.
esc wrote to bex <=-
Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are o a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book Part memoir, part travelogue.
Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write,
The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we
see in our mind's eye.
What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?
car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a
Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!
crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the
tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears
It was a hoot!
Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "Learn to use ten minutes intelligently. It will pay you huge dividends.
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
I got lucky as a kid....
so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china,
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "Oh, you in trouble dum-dum. You'd better run-run. From Atilla the Hun-h
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
Arelor wrote to bex <=-
If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.
Damn, my twit list is filling up today...
No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because
that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.
Point for the horses.
I've seen swastikas on front doors,
people in trucks acting like
idiots towards Prius drivers.
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from
I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.
Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
:O
they probably picked it off of the headlines.
what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.
Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the
crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).
no, that was out of sequence time wise.
the actual thing happened first.
Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so
urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th
e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.
I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.
You're right, you don't have to go far.
Damn, my twit list is filling up today...
No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
something the horse didn't want to hear.
Point for the horses.
the actual thing happened first.
So this smiley face drunk-drowner thing happened before 2008? I thought it was more recent than that but if it was before 2008 you are correct.
"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
like the rest of those things.
So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?
Damn, my twit list is filling up today...
No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
something the horse didn't want to hear.
Point for the horses.
Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher. The county fire chief was the actual county fire chief.
How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak fr
I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.
Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O
We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was on pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes mone to date someone and keep them interested.
Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.
There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
longer than 15 minutes.
Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is Summer).
* SLMR 2.1a * Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (Yep/Nope)
Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency al urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all ove e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.
IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.
* SLMR 2.1a * Hell is full. The damned are now in Tech Support.
I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.
You're right, you don't have to go far.
"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
like the rest of those things.
So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?
* SLMR 2.1a * I before E except after C, huh? Weird.....
the smiley face thing just might be something the detective though was related
ut wasnt. i think there are certainly people pushing people into cold water ea
y in the morning for the rush.
Damn, my twit list is filling up today...
No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
said
something the horse didn't want to hear.
Point for the horses.
i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.
It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.
I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The number 1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 man patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct 1 was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampart.
Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed in west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12
You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.
Damn, my twit list is filling up today...
No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
said
something the horse didn't want to hear.
Point for the horses.
i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.
Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D
i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.
It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.
If they were all spinoffs, what series did the first one spinoff from? I think I vaguely remember hearing about a possible plan regarding one
leaving to become a ranger.
I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The numb 1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampar
Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12
Wow, you really know your stuff! :) I didn't know that but now that I do it will bother me also! :D
* SLMR 2.1a * Do not look in laser with remaining eye.
i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.
I don't have anyone in my twitlist, but I'm sure I am in a few ;)
On a side note, I noticed once I gave up alcohol, I seemingly gave up getting in heated online debates. Maybe these are connected.
esc wrote to bex <=-
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
That's some good advice. I suffer from hating most things I create - I don't like my singing voice, for example. And yeah, I don't really give myself permission to suck, I hold myself to an impossible standard.
Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that
will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that
would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:
Ha! Too bad I don't drink! :P
esc wrote to bex <=-
favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
*gasp* watch out for dropbears!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good.
That's some of the best advice coming out of NANOWRIMO, the National
It's too easy to get discouraged because it's not The Great Gatsby, or
to start wordsmithing to distract from progressing through the novel,
but if you focus on getting a draft out, then making it shine, it's
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.
as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs
cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a
cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up
there by myself just listening to music and the animals.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160
acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that
is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor
taught the class from the word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working
on paper, he told us. We would lay down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable,
yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be
toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to esc <=-
I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024
banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks
acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.
You're right, you don't have to go far.
I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spinoff
Brokenmind wrote to Moondog <=-
Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due
to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual
voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a
few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life.
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but
I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags
(which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else like the rest of those things.
So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean
California?
Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of
one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.
esc wrote to bex <=-
favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to
kill all humans. :O
*gasp* watch out for dropbears!
Holy canoli, I just googled "dropbear" and will now never be able to sleep again! :O
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.That's what they said about those aliens before the aliens blew up the White House...
as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs
cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a
cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up
there by myself just listening to music and the animals.
Ah, that sounds so lovely! A pillow, a blanket, a book, the sound of the water lapping against the shore, the sounds of nature as music to my ears...
Yeah, I could definitely spend some time there.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that
Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now 18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!
is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and
I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
the walking?
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "Time has a way of getting away from us, because we never have a grip on
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor taught the class from the word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working
I reckon you must have a year or two on me - I was a senior in high school in 1988. We had Apple IIs for the most part, and our English teacher was not all that enthused about computers at all. She was old-school in 1988, I hope that she's caught up with the 1990s by now... :)
on paper, he told us. We would lay down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.
That sounds like a great method. Finding a system that works for you, and
is flexible enough for a person to tailor it to their style is perfect. My opinion is the tool should be as integral as a desk and a chair - there to support you but otherwise invisible, allowing a writer to put words to
page.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable, yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.
That's a great story idea - you should definitely write that! I say that both selfishly, because I want to read that story! But also because it
would be great to build out that idea into your own creation. I love it!
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "This is my family. I found it, all on my own. It's little, and broken,
I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spi
Before my work schedule got messed up again (post-COVID), I would usually
be sitting down to breakfast while Dragnet was on. If it looked like it
was going to be one about hippies, I knew it was going to be a good one and would hit REC. :)
* SLMR 2.1a * Football players do it after they are blitzed.
election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.
Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.
So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?
Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.
Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.
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Brokenmind wrote to Moondog <=-
Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life.
Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.
What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.
... Remember quiet evenings
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Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.
If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.
... Reward for a job well done: More work
Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip from Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wants to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't know it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.
I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could send telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators were cool too.
I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.
He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."
That's my opinion too.
Time is finite.
-Hylian
Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip fro Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wa to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't k it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.
LOL, yes a lot of what he says has become relevant again (if it ever wasn't).
I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could s telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators we cool too.
When I was young and it was on afternoon TV, I did, too. I even had a couple of their "official" plastic toy fireman hats.
* SLMR 2.1a * A man without a gun will soon not be free.
I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.
He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."
That's my opinion too.
Time is finite.
-Hylian
I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.
He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."
I got a small black Plano fishing tacklebox. My father thought I was weird for keping band aids and bactine spray in it instead of fishing lures. My mother was an RN before becoming a full time mom. She knew the Emergency reference.
Dumas Walker wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those
that voted for Biden
Source: CBS NEWS
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in- the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2I bgC91RP
A#app
They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course,
ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and
not total populations.
I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.
They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery, not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.
Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.
Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.
Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.
Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.
It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where
you walk and you'll be fine.
i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night, but what a helluva show
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types,
shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do
not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are
the source of meat in stores.
Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these
kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having
fun underneath their depressing surface.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The
library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's
for cad and drafting the year after I graduated. My high school
drafting teacher was taking a CAD course the next room over from my
Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan.
Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs
and chapters that make sense.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
World building is a pain. A new world with it's own rules must also comply to the rules several chapters into the story. Then there's fleshing out integral charaters. Winston Groom author of Forrest Gump, wrote a book where nearly every member in the rifle company was more
than just a name. Other than the primary story, there were several
side stories, and people's names would appear or be brought up which in turn added to their personal story.
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
i don't think there's anything wrong with being direct, just as long
as the delivery isn't crappy.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.
millions of people died of covid because they were denied ****HORSE DEWORMER*** and that medication that trump and others took "hydroxychloroquine" and other medicines. that's what happens when you get evil pharmaceutical companies like merck involved with this bullshit. ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source of meat in stores.
Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.
Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.
My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they look like night and day versions of each other.)
She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes the goth style.
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... We all live in a yellow subroutine.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The
Hey, that means we are the same age. Class of '88 forever!!!
library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's for cad and drafting the year after I graduated. My high school drafting teacher was taking a CAD course the next room over from my
I went to a really small high school (90 students, I graduated in a class
of 20 students) and I don't think we had a drafting class.... but don't
hold me to that. I was the resident smart girl - graduated salutatorian - but my interests were in biology and calculus. It's important for one to know her limitations.
Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters that make sense.
It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets Linda and they become installed, the second part is when Rodrigo goes off
to college and turns into a dick, the last part is when Linda and Rodrigo meet up again 20 years later." Then I just write and write to fill out the sections. After my first draft, then I go in and break up each section into chapters and scenes.
I guess I am backwards regarding writing. :)
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "I would make a great queen because I am stubborn - if that is what I wanted
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where
you walk and you'll be fine.
When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede
was hanging out in there! Ever since then, I give my shoes a couple smacks against a chair to
dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.
i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night,
but what a helluva show
Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it closes is the first step towards being murdered!
When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by
my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede was hanging out in there! Eeeeeeeeeeeewww! GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters that make sense.
It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets
It sounds like a character arc has been established. Filling in the
holes is where I'd imagine it gets stickier, depending how charactes evolve over the times between their absences.
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede
hahaha been there done that. I do the same thing. especially if i've
left them outside for any length of time.
i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before theyshut the gates you would be up there all night,
Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it closes is the first step towards being murdered!
yea.... and so is walking around a cemetary at night LOL....
MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-
ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/
i didn't follow the money on this article but i bet the pharm companies had their hand in it. merck was big on the anti ivermectin because
they are one of the companies making a vaccine.
it certainly has to be looked into further because these 2 drugs do
show promise. there's some stories that says it doesn't improve
recovery 'much'. that atleast means it does something for some people.
we really understand very little about any of this.
we can't even contain a contagious disease from spreading all over the world in a matter of days. that's pathetic.
Re: a very task oriented person
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Oct 24 2022 03:22 pm
ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html
https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/
yeah until next week when they think it does.
i didn't follow the money on this article but i bet the pharm companies had their hand in it. merck was big on the anti ivermectin
because they are one of the companies making a vaccine.
it certainly has to be looked into further because these 2 drugs do show promise. there's some stories that says it doesn't improve
recovery 'much'.
that atleast means it does something for some people.
we really understand very little about any of this.
we can't even contain a contagious disease from spreading all over the world in a matter of days. that's pathetic.
also ivermectin is more than a 'horse dewormer'; it's a legit drug. of course, people shouldn't take it in huge doses. that's just
stupid.
also ivermectin is more than a 'horse dewormer'; it's a legit drug. of course, people shouldn't take it in huge doses. that's just stupid.
IMO.. Using ivermectin as a treatment for COVID made no sense, as this product is used to deworm horses. Worms and viruses are biologically
a virus isn't alive until it enters a host. Ivermection has been
already proven not to be an effective treatment for COVID.
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to
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Re: a very task oriented person
By: Nightfox to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:37 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to ot shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo
... Have you ever asked a question you weren't supposed to ask?
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to
other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend
themselves to
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
Yeah, I'd probably get the same reaction here. But from what I've heard, it seems there are places where it's more common for people to talk to strangers while shopping.
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
Yeah, I'd probably get the same reaction here. But from what I've heard, it seems there are places where it's more common for people to talk to stranger while shopping.
Nightfox
just grab them by the pussy. it doesn't work if you're ugly, though.
Re: a very task oriented person
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 09 2023 01:26 pm
just grab them by the pussy. it doesn't work if you're ugly, though.
It does, but then you have to be rich.
Hustler wrote to Nightfox <=-
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Nightfox to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:37 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
That's why I carry gospel tracts... Well, one reason. :-)
It's much easier to start a conversation with the intent to share the Gospel when you can had a million dollar bill. :-) And if it doesn't feel like it's going to be able to be a conversation, then they can still
take the tract home with them.
Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.
What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.
Quoting Brokenmind to Poindexter Fortran <=-
Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am
Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.
I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of
firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern
set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks
for the heads up about that though
BrokenMind
Quoting Brokenmind to Poindexter Fortran <=-
Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am
Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, a they'll probably be able to mimic it.
I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern
set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks for the heads up about that though
BrokenMind
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
I know, I'm hopeless.
Cougar
... This door is baroque; please call Bach later.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20
I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of
firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern
set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks
for the heads up about that though
BrokenMind
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
I know, I'm hopeless.
Cougar428 wrote to BROKENMIND <=-
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
Cougar428 wrote to BROKENMIND <=-
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...
... Frightfully nice.
Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Cougar428 <=-
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...
Moondog wrote to Cougar428 <=-
I used to like Emergency as a kid. My father bought me a black Plano tackle box because I thought it was cooler than a fire truck
Quoting Moondog to Poindexter Fortran <=-
Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Cougar428 on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:26 am
Cougar428 wrote to BROKENMIND <=-
Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...
I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...
... Frightfully nice.
Emergency was on 50 years ago. The chief nurse wore pants suits and
that was sa point when nurses uniforms were evolving from those old
style dresses. The portable ekg machine with RF data link to the
hospital was fairly modern. By the later episodes the ekg machine had
a defibrulator built in.
Funny thing is the chief nurse was married in real life to the gray
haired doctor, and was written in to be the love interest of the other main doctor. The dispatch operator who would speak over the talk box
was the real LA county dispacter. Several of the firefighters were
real firefighters. The fire chief who would appear at the fire scenes
was the actuall county fire chi ef. I get the impression the show producers got access to the new stuff, and handed it over to the ifre department when the series was over.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I get the impression the show
producers got access to the new stuff, and handed it over to the ifre department when the series was over.
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