• book: upgrade by blake crouch

    From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to All on Tuesday, July 11, 2023 22:09:00
    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science Fiction - Action & Adventure
    Published Jun 27, 2023

    "The mind-blowing new thriller from the New York Times
    bestselling author of Dark Matter and Recursion-currently in
    development as a motion picture at Steven Spielberg's Amblin
    Partners

    "You are the next step in human evolution."

    "At first, Logan Ramsay isn't sure if anything's different. He just feels a little . . . sharper. Better able to concentrate. Better at multitasking. Reading a bit faster, memorizing better, needing less sleep.

    "But before long, he can't deny it: Something's happening to his brain. To his body. He's starting to see the world, and those around him-even those he loves most-in whole new ways.

    "The truth is, Logan's genome has been hacked. And there's a reason he's been targeted for this upgrade. A reason that goes back decades to the darkest part of his past, and a horrific family legacy.

    "Worse still, what's happening to him is just the first step in a much larger plan, one that will inflict the same changes on humanity at large-at a terrifying cost.

    "Because of his new abilities, Logan's the one person in the world capable of stopping what's been set in motion. But to have a chance at winning this war, he'll have to become something other than himself. Maybe even something other than human.

    "And even as he's fighting, he can't help wondering: what if humanity's only hope for a future really does lie in engineering our own evolution?

    "Intimate in scale yet epic in scope, Upgrade is an intricately plotted, lightning-fast tale that charts one man's thrilling transformation, even as it asks us to ponder the limits of our humanity-and our boundless potential.

    https://bookshop.org/a/93260/9780593157527

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Wednesday, July 12, 2023 09:03:00
    Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Ogg to All on Tue Jul 11 2023 10:09 pm

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science Fiction


    man people dont read anymore
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Wednesday, July 12, 2023 16:10:00
    MRO wrote to Ogg <=-

    Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Ogg to All on Tue Jul 11 2023 10:09 pm

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science Fiction

    man people dont read anymore

    Maybe not the people that *YOU* know and associate with.

    Just the opposite for many of us.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, July 12, 2023 20:04:00
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Wednesday 12.07.23 - 09:03, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Ogg to All on Tue Jul 11 2023 10:09 pm

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science
    Fiction


    man people dont read anymore

    people == MRO ?


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Wednesday, July 12, 2023 07:34:00
    Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science Fiction - Action & Adventure Published Jun 27, 2023

    "The mind-blowing new thriller from the New York Times
    bestselling author of Dark Matter and Recursion-currently in
    development as a motion picture at Steven Spielberg's Amblin
    Partners

    "You are the next step in human evolution."

    Interesting. Blake Crouch wrote a couple of other books, and the Wayward
    Pines trilogy that was the basis for the 2015 TV series that I loved.
    Reviews from Andy Weir. Thanks for the recommendation!



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Thursday, July 13, 2023 08:54:23
    Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Ogg to MRO on Wed Jul 12 2023 08:04 pm


    Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Ogg to All on Tue Jul 11 2023 10:09 pm

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science
    Fiction


    man people dont read anymore

    people == MRO ?

    nobody reads anymore.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Thursday, July 13, 2023 20:55:00
    MRO wrote to Ogg <=-

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    Blake Crouch
    Random House Publishing Group | Ballantine Books
    Fiction / Thrillers - Technological / Thrillers - Suspense / Science
    Fiction

    man people dont read anymore

    people == MRO ?

    nobody reads anymore.

    Wrong. Again. As usual.



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  • From Dr. What@VERT/THEGATEB to Gamgee on Friday, July 14, 2023 07:21:00
    Gamgee wrote to MRO <=-

    man people dont read anymore

    nobody reads anymore.

    Wrong. Again. As usual.

    He's partly right. But he should have said "too many people don't read anymore."



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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Ogg on Friday, July 14, 2023 08:01:18
    Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Ogg to All on Tue Jul 11 2023 10:09 pm

    Upgrade: A Novel | Paperback
    "You are the next step in human evolution."

    Does this book have any relation to any of the movies like this? There was a movie called "Upgrade", but it wasn't quite exactly the same plot. Coincidentaly enough, it stars someone named Logan :D. There were some other movies, though, along the same lines.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Thursday, July 13, 2023 08:06:00
    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    man people dont read anymore

    people == MRO ?

    No, because people logging into bbses hate WORDS.

    I have the opposite problem -- low-cost and free ebooks have given me a
    backlog of books to sort through. I use Calibre to make ebooks from most
    any format, then email them to my Kindle account or read them in
    Calibre.

    As much as I love paper books and book culture (my first job was in a bookstore...) being able to read with adjustable fonts and a backlight
    at my age is better. Reading a used SF paperback like the early edition
    of Dune that I found, with yellowing paper and faded ink is a chore.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, July 15, 2023 19:07:00
    Hello poindexter FORTRAN!

    ** On Thursday 13.07.23 - 08:06, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg:

    I have the opposite problem -- low-cost and free ebooks
    have given me a backlog of books to sort through. I use
    Calibre to make ebooks from most any format, then email
    them to my Kindle account or read them in Calibre.

    There is plenty of material out there, that is for sure. The
    Gutenburg Project is pretty good. I used Gutenberg to pull a
    copy of Roughing It In The Woods - Suzanne Moodie. I wanted to
    source all references to blackflies and deerflies to learn how
    they coped with those bloodsuckers back in the day. Very handy
    to do that search in ebook format or txt.


    As much as I love paper books and book culture (my first
    job was in a bookstore...) being able to read with
    adjustable fonts and a backlight at my age is better.
    Reading a used SF paperback like the early edition of Dune
    that I found, with yellowing paper and faded ink is a
    chore.

    I don't need glasses (and I am the only person amongst 14 first
    cousins (some older than me and some younger) and aunts and
    uncles, and 2nd cousins much younger than me, that doesn't need
    glasses.

    I recall no issues with pocketbook format copies of The
    Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged - by Ayn Rand - in my teens,
    but the yellowing/fading of the paper would make it a challenge
    today. So far, I don't need larger fonts for anything except
    that reading the Ingredients list on drug store products is
    impossible most of the time. I carry a credit card sized
    magnifier for that.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, July 16, 2023 07:34:30
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Thu Jul 13 2023 08:06 am

    at my age is better. Reading a used SF paperback like the early edition
    of Dune that I found, with yellowing paper and faded ink is a chore.

    I haven't bought a book in 15 years. Oh wait.. Yes I have. Ten years ago I bought a few books for college. But that's a racket. The author of the book was the professor giving the class. I love E-books.

    |07 HusTler

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to HusTler on Sunday, July 16, 2023 09:17:00
    HusTler wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I haven't bought a book in 15 years. Oh wait.. Yes I have. Ten years
    ago I bought a few books for college. But that's a racket. The author
    of the book was the professor giving the class. I love E-books.

    In college, I had the odd professor or two who'd write their own
    textbook. Mostly, they were poorly printed and spiral bound, but every
    once in a while you'd see a hardbound edition.

    Invariably, they'd change a word or two, increment the edition number
    and require the newer edition for their class.

    I took a trip a few months back and visited the campus bookstore where I worked. The actual BOOK portion of the store had shrunk greatly, to be
    taken up by sundries and a mini grocery store for the new dorms that had kitchenettes. It makes sense, seeing that you can buy most texts online
    now - and Amazon has a rental program for textbooks. Before you could
    sell your texts back, but you never knew how much you'd get. This way,
    the costs are up-front.



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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, July 16, 2023 12:46:09
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Sun Jul 16 2023 09:17 am

    In college, I had the odd professor or two who'd write their own

    Invariably, they'd change a word or two, increment the edition number
    and require the newer edition for their class.

    They all freakin' do this! They think they're so smart. I personally held off on buying any books at all until I was absolutely sure it was absolutely necessary. Sometimes even when it _was_ necessary, I'd just photocopy from another student in class.

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/PALANTIR to Phigan on Sunday, July 16, 2023 17:28:27
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: Phigan to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 16 2023 12:46 pm

    They all freakin' do this! They think they're so smart. I personally held off on buying any books at all until I was absolutely sure it was absolutely necessary. Sometimes even when it _was_ necessary, I'd just photocopy from another
    student in class.

    On the flipside, I had a professor who told us in the first week that the university was requiring him to assign a book, so he'd include an extra credit question at the end of the first exam from the book.
    Other than that, it was completely optional.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, July 17, 2023 06:44:50
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Sun Jul 16 2023 09:17 am

    kitchenettes. It makes sense, seeing that you can buy most texts online
    now - and Amazon has a rental program for textbooks. Before you could
    sell your texts back, but you never knew how much you'd get. This way,
    the costs are up-front.

    Just curious, are digital books an option in college? Are they the same price as hardcover?

    |07 HusTler

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to HusTler on Monday, July 17, 2023 07:14:00
    HusTler wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Just curious, are digital books an option in college? Are they the
    same price as hardcover?

    I'm pretty sure Amazon had kindle editions of some of the texts. I'd
    prefer a DRM-free version, but being able to search an ebook and carry
    all of my texts in one e-reader would be a game changer in college.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, July 17, 2023 17:54:10
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blake crouch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Mon Jul 17 2023 07:14 am

    HusTler wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Just curious, are digital books an option in college? Are they the same price as hardcover?

    I'm pretty sure Amazon had kindle editions of some of the texts. I'd
    prefer a DRM-free version, but being able to search an ebook and carry
    all of my texts in one e-reader would be a game changer in college.




    You just can't browse an ebook as fast as you browse a thick book.

    When I was at college, a lot of people had digital books. The gal who used to sit right next to me had a very nice ereader their parents had given her as a birthday gift for college. She tried it for a while and went back to paper books in a matter of weeks.

    I know you have search functions and bookmark functions with ebooks, but it is still easier to locate information on a paper tome, specially if you mark the pages you often reference.

    I have noticed this effect with RPG books too. When your reference manual is inpaper, you tend to locate information faster at the game table. My friends are
    all cheap fucks and tend to come with pirated digital copies. They take ages tofind rules and reference tables on their mobiles and tablets.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/THEGATEB to Arelor on Tuesday, July 18, 2023 07:12:00
    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    You just can't browse an ebook as fast as you browse a thick book.

    When I was at college, a lot of people had digital books. The gal who
    used to sit right next to me had a very nice ereader their parents had given her as a birthday gift for college. She tried it for a while and went back to paper books in a matter of weeks.

    eBook readers are wonderful if you are reading the book from cover to cover but as soon as you need to jump around in the book, they get cumbersome very quickly.

    I have a really nice PocketBook eReader that I enjoy reading novels on, but all of my reference books are paper.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dr. What on Tuesday, July 18, 2023 14:07:00
    Dr. What wrote to Arelor <=-

    You just can't browse an ebook as fast as you browse a thick book.

    When I was at college, a lot of people had digital books. The gal who
    used to sit right next to me had a very nice ereader their parents had given her as a birthday gift for college. She tried it for a while and went back to paper books in a matter of weeks.

    eBook readers are wonderful if you are reading the book from
    cover to cover but as soon as you need to jump around in the
    book, they get cumbersome very quickly.

    Absolute truth, right there.

    I love something paper with liberal use of highlighters and notes
    scribbled in the margins.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Tuesday, July 18, 2023 16:07:01
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Gamgee to Dr. What on Tue Jul 18 2023 02:07 pm

    eBook readers are wonderful if you are reading the book from
    cover to cover but as soon as you need to jump around in the
    book, they get cumbersome very quickly.

    Absolute truth, right there.

    I love something paper with liberal use of highlighters and notes scribbled in the margins.

    That reminds me of when I was in college, and when buying my textbooks, I'd try to buy used copies if available since they were cheaper than new copies. For one class, I ended up with a used copy where the previous owner had highlighted whole pages of the book (I didn't really get why they did that). One day in class, we were working in groups and had our books open, and someone else in class saw my copy of the book and said something like, "So you like highlighting?" I explained that I had bought a used copy and it was like that when I bought it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Tuesday, July 18, 2023 20:18:00
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I love something paper with liberal use of highlighters and notes scribbled in the margins.

    That reminds me of when I was in college, and when buying my
    textbooks, I'd try to buy used copies if available since they
    were cheaper than new copies. For one class, I ended up with a
    used copy where the previous owner had highlighted whole pages of
    the book (I didn't really get why they did that). One day in
    class, we were working in groups and had our books open, and
    someone else in class saw my copy of the book and said something
    like, "So you like highlighting?" I explained that I had bought
    a used copy and it was like that when I bought it.

    Hehe, yes it does seem strange to highlight a whole page... Many times
    the used books had the important (test-able!) info highlighted, and if
    you were real lucky, the margin scribbles were still legible and
    relevant. :-)



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  • From hollowone@VERT/BEERS20 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, July 20, 2023 06:51:00
    As much as I love paper books and book culture (my first job was in a bookstore...) being able to read with adjustable fonts and a backlight
    at my age is better. Reading a used SF paperback like the early edition
    of Dune that I found, with yellowing paper and faded ink is a chore.


    Although I like the smell of the book and having them in numbers in my home library, I agree, book today is often words on screen and even I have many books on paper I still tend to look at digital copies more. Paper copies are often just old fashioned collectibles that feed my vain.

    -h1

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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Monday, July 31, 2023 10:36:41
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Tue Jul 18 2023 04:07 pm

    That reminds me of when I was in college, and when buying my textbooks, I'd try to buy used copies if available since they were cheaper than new something like, "So you like highlighting?" I explained that I had bought

    I always bought used books in college. They were MUCH cheaper and I felt if someone highlighted something it must be important so I figured that was a benefit to me. If They had no used books then I was forced to buy new. That pissed me off because I wouldn't use a highlighter cause I wanted to get the most money for it when I sold it used. I didn't do as well in class without using the highlighter. LoL. Damned if I do. Damned if I don't.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Hustler on Monday, July 31, 2023 17:52:00
    Hello Hustler!

    ** On Monday 31.07.23 - 10:36, Hustler wrote to Nightfox:

    That reminds me of when I was in college, and when buying my textbooks,
    I'd try to buy used copies if available since they were cheaper than new
    something like, "So you like highlighting?" I explained that I had
    bought

    I always bought used books in college. They were MUCH cheaper and I felt if someone highlighted something it must be important so I figured that
    was a benefit to me. If They had no used books then I was forced to buy new. That pissed me off because I wouldn't use a highlighter cause I
    wanted to get the most money for it when I sold it used.

    You said it yourself that highlighting was a bonus feature in a
    used textbook. So, you could have marketed your used books the
    same way! :D


    I didn't do as well in class without using the highlighter.
    LoL. Damned if I do. Damned if I don't.

    If you could do it all over again, what would you do now? ;)






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  • From Hustler@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Tuesday, August 01, 2023 05:47:36
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Ogg to Hustler on Mon Jul 31 2023 05:52 pm

    You said it yourself that highlighting was a bonus feature in a
    used textbook. So, you could have marketed your used books the
    same way! :D
    Nah. The book loses it's value when it's marked up.

    I didn't do as well in class without using the highlighter.
    LoL. Damned if I do. Damned if I don't.

    If you could do it all over again, what would you do now? ;)

    I'd change my major to computer science instead of criminal justice. ;-)


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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to Hustler on Tuesday, August 01, 2023 11:41:12
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Hustler to Ogg on Tue Aug 01 2023 05:47 am

    If you could do it all over again, what would you do now? ;)

    I'd change my major to computer science instead of criminal justice. ;-)

    Ooooo cool, so are you like a lawyer?

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Tuesday, August 01, 2023 09:15:00
    You said it yourself that highlighting was a bonus feature in a
    used textbook. So, you could have marketed your used books the
    same way! :D

    My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been highlighted, marked up, etc.

    What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to find
    out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good book
    to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there was no
    way to resell it.

    I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going to be
    able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That turned out false,
    I could not resell the book, and wound up donating it to the library since
    it was not a book I wanted to keep.

    I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, August 01, 2023 13:07:42
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Tue Aug 01 2023 09:15 am

    What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to find out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good book to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there was no way to resell it.

    I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going to be able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That turned out false, I could not resell the book, and wound up donating it to the library since it was not a book I wanted to keep.

    I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.

    I feel like there should be a way for college students to borrow their textbooks rather than buy them, and perhaps that would be less expensive. Most of the time, students don't need to keep the textbooks (though it would be good to still have the option to buy them).

    Nightfox

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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to Nightfox on Tuesday, August 01, 2023 19:46:44
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 01 2023 01:07 pm

    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Tue Aug 01 2023 09:15 am

    What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to
    find out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not
    a good book to use, changed back to their previous semester's book,
    and there was no way to resell it.

    I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going
    to be able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That
    turned out false, I could not resell the book, and wound up donating
    it to the library since it was not a book I wanted to keep.

    I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.

    I feel like there should be a way for college students to borrow their textbooks rather than buy them, and perhaps that would be less expensive. Most of the time, students don't need to keep the textbooks (though it would be good to still have the option to buy them).

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    I heard somewhere that some colleges release new versions each year to force new purchaces by changing page numbers

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 01:39:58
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Dumas Walker to OGG on Tue Aug 01 2023 09:15 am

    You said it yourself that highlighting was a bonus feature in a
    used textbook. So, you could have marketed your used books the
    same way! :D

    My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been highlighted, marked up, etc.

    What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive book new only to find
    out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good book to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there was no
    way to resell it.

    I had that happen in an Accounting class. We were supposedly going to be able to use it for the next class (Accounting II). That turned out false,
    I could not resell the book, and wound up donating it to the library since it was not a book I wanted to keep.

    I kept my Astronomy and Geography textbooks.


    i bought used books for tech college. there wasnt really any mention of it being cheaper for having notes or highlights.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/BEERS20 to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 04:39:00
    My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been highlighted, marked up, etc.

    That's why I didn't highlight new books. But it had a negative effect on my course work

    DW> What got me was when I had to buy a real expensive
    book new only to find DW> out at the end of the term that the prof figured out it was not a good DW> book to use, changed back to their previous semester's book, and there DW> was no way to resell it.

    That's BS!! I would have sent the reciept to the Professor or School!
  • From HusTler@VERT/BEERS20 to candycane on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 04:53:00
    I heard somewhere that some colleges release new versions each year to force new purchaces by changing page numbers


    College is not like the public schools we went to paid by tax dollars. Their all a money making scheme. I get approved for a $20,000 loan but I still have to buy books? Talk about a scheme. Pay for parking. Pay $20.00 for a burger and fries in the school cafeteria. It's school not a 49er game.

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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 08:31:23
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Wed Aug 02 2023 01:39 am

    i bought used books for tech college. there wasnt really any mention of it being cheaper for having notes or highlights.

    Why would it be cheaper for notes? What if they're wrong/distracting?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to candycane on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 06:50:00
    candycane wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I heard somewhere that some colleges release new versions each year to force new purchaces by changing page numbers

    It's usually professors who write their own textbooks as a means of
    additional income. I remember a physics professor who did minor upgrades
    to a spiral bound "text book" complete with his own hand drawn scribbles pretending to be diagrams. He bumped the version number and made veiled
    threats to students who tried using the "old" edition.

    Most of the content and page numbers were identical. We'd all had to
    buy the previous edition in the fall. Bastard didn't even have the
    decency to wait until the beginning of the school year to bump the
    edition.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 07:39:00
    I feel like there should be a way for college students to borrow their textboo
    rather than buy them, and perhaps that would be less expensive. Most of the me, students don't need to keep the textbooks (though it would be good to stil
    have the option to buy them).

    Some schools might do that, but I suspect it is a money maker for someone.
    A couple of the smaller state schools here, as a way to compete with the
    two largest, have started giving their students their textbooks as
    "covered" by their tuition. As best as I can tell, the tuition at those schools is still less than their larger brothers. The one thing I am not
    clear on is whether or not that program is for all students, or just the freshman class.

    The way they advertise it, you get there for the semester and your books
    are either already in your room, or ready for you to pick up.


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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, August 02, 2023 17:14:15
    Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Aug 02 2023 07:39 am

    The way they advertise it, you get there for the semester and your books are either already in your room, or ready for you to pick up.

    Kinda ridiculous thats a selling point..

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, August 03, 2023 08:11:00
    My recollection, which might be wrong, was that the places that bought used
    books from the students would not pay as much for ones that had been highlighted, marked up, etc.

    i bought used books for tech college. there wasnt really any mention of it be
    g cheaper for having notes or highlights.

    I agree they were not cheaper for the buying student. I think the book
    stores did not pay the selling student as much for a book that was
    marked up.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to CANDYCANE on Thursday, August 03, 2023 08:14:00
    The way they advertise it, you get there for the semester and your books are either already in your room, or ready for you to pick up.

    Kinda ridiculous thats a selling point..

    In a way, it is, but for some buying the expensive books themselves vs.
    knowing it is taken care of might be a tipping point as to which school they choose.


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  • From Feoh@VERT/DECAFBAD to Dr. What on Wednesday, December 20, 2023 09:26:20
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Tue Jul 18 2023 07:12 am

    quickly.

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  • From Feoh@VERT/DECAFBAD to Dr. What on Wednesday, December 20, 2023 09:29:36
    Re: Re: book: upgrade by blak
    By: Dr. What to Arelor on Tue Jul 18 2023 07:12 am

    eBook readers are wonderful if you are reading the book from cover to cover but as soon as you need to jump around in the book, they get cumbersome very quickly.

    I get this, I really do.

    This is a fine example of where different people's physical capabilities come into play.

    Having been partially blind and fine/gross motor impaired all my life, print books have always been a struggle. You can't resize the font in a print book, and you can't do a keyword search either :)

    There are all kinds of reasons why people might prefer them, and I would never try to convince them otherwise, because you need to do what works for YOU, but for me? ebooks all the way :)

    The only exception is comics and graphic novels, where I still vastly prefer the printed page, in part due to the rendering of the art.

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